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Old Feb 25, 19, 12:17 pm
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Unofficial Oneworld partner accrual rules

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As far as I can tell, there are two unofficial rules concerning earnings on at least some Oneworld partner airlines:
  • Flights below 500 miles earn 750 base points rather than 1 base point per kilometer. Or not.
  • Flights operated by non-Oneworld carriers may or may not earn.

On the first rule, I've confirmed at least AA, AB (R.I.P.), CX/KA and IB, though I don't know if it's universal.

I have never tried my luck with the second rule. I've heard that QF credits QF-coded EK-operated flights though?
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Old Feb 25, 19, 12:24 pm
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Rule 1 also applies to JL flights. Sometimes.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch View Post
Hi,

As far as I can tell, there are two unofficial rules concerning earnings on at least some Oneworld partner airlines:
  • Flights below 500 miles earn 750 base points rather than 1 base point per kilometer. Or not.
  • Flights operated by non-Oneworld carriers may or may not earn.

On the first rule, I've confirmed at least AA, AB (R.I.P.), CX/KA and IB, though I don't know if it's universal.

I have never tried my luck with the second rule. I've heard that QF credits QF-coded EK-operated flights though?
rule 1 doesnt apply to (at least) AA flights.
Rule 2 seems to be that, if flights are marketed by same company as ffp, they always earn.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 12:34 pm
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I have SFO-LAX earning exactly 750 points. That's more than the flight distance would justify, so hmm...

Of course AY-coded flights earning to AY+ regardless of carrier. But I'm wondering if there are any other cases.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch View Post
I have SFO-LAX earning exactly 750 points. That's more than the flight distance would justify, so hmm...

Of course AY-coded flights earning to AY+ regardless of carrier. But I'm wondering if there are any other cases.
Maybe you had with AY code? I've eg MIA-SDQ earning 342 points.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch View Post
As far as I can tell, there are two unofficial rules concerning earnings on at least some Oneworld partner airlines:
  • Flights below 500 miles earn 750 base points rather than 1 base point per kilometer. Or not.
This is not an unofficial rule but a semi-official rule.
https://www.finnair.com/fi/gb/finnai...air-plus/rules

3.2
The basic unit of the Finnair Plus program is the point. For scheduled flights, Finnair specifies the basis of the number of award points granted as either 1) [...], 2) [...], or 3) the minimum number of points (the booking class affects the minimum number of points) as stated in the program.
In other words, there is officially a minimum, although it doesn't (to my knowledge) say what that minimum is.
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  • Flights operated by non-Oneworld carriers may or may not earn.
Marketed by QF
Crediting to AA:
Earn miles

To earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Qantas marketed and operated flights as well as Qantas codeshare flights:

Exceptions

Qantas codeshare flights operated by Jetstar are ineligible for any Elite Qualifying Credits or award miles.
Crediting to BA:
Executive Club Members can collect Avios on:

Flights marketed and operated by Qantas or Qantas Airlines affiliates under the QF designated code.
Flights marketed by Qantas but operated by Jetstar booked as oneworld fare in L class only.
Flights marketed by Qantas or Qantas Airlines affiliates and operated by Qantas, a Qantas affiliate, BA, another oneworld carrier, or another third party under a codeshare agreement.
Crediting to AY:
Please note that you are entitled to earn points on flights operated Jetstar (JQ) only when your ticket is marketed by Qantas (QF) and the booking class in the ticket is L.
It sounds as if AA and BA earn on all QF-marketed flights except that Jetstar flights only earn if booked as part of a Oneworld Explorer ticket (or similar fare). There are plenty of reports on the AA and BA sections of FT that these flights do post to AA and BA, so the rule seems to be correctly formulated. AY's page mentions the JQ rule but not the rule about other codeshares, but maybe you still get points? I suspect that this actually is something that QF is doing (paying to partner programmes) and that these might credit to all partner programmes.

Marketed by JL
Crediting to AA
To earn AAdvantage® miles when you fly on Japan Airlines marketed and operated flights as well as Japan Airlines codeshare flights operated by other carriers including oneworld® carriers and affiliates:
The wording suggests that all flights marketed by JL can be credited to AA. I've not seen any reports of any test cases. If this is true, then they maybe also post to AY+.

Marketed by AY: There are reports that AY codeshares on SU credit to AA and that AY codeshares on TF don't credit to BA. The BA report is more than five years old.

Marketed by MH
AY+ accrual page states:
Please note that the following flights are not eligible for point accrual:

Flights operated by MASWings (MH3000 series)
Flights operated by Firefly (coded with FY)
Code-share flights carrier code MH5000 series
Charter flights (MH8000 series)
Ad-hoc flights (MH7000 series)
Code-share partner SNCF (MH4000 series)
This suggests that you can earn on all codeshares except MASWings, Firefly, SNCF and anything in the MH5000 series. For example, it sounds as if the MH4618 codeshare on the EK156 service from ARN to DXB would qualify. WARNING: Other airlines list other flight number series as ineligible for mileage accrual, indicating that MH4618 can't be credited to those airlines. AY's page might just be outdated and the flight might not credit.

I suppose that the only way to find out if a codeshare on non-OW metal credits is to book one of those and see what happens.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 1:20 pm
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Originally Posted by reflektia View Post
Maybe you had with AY code? I've eg MIA-SDQ earning 342 points.
The distance is more than 750 km, though. Didn't you just travel in a booking class which only earns 25%?
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Old Feb 25, 19, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by reflektia View Post
Maybe you had with AY code? I've eg MIA-SDQ earning 342 points.
No it was AA code back when they still earned 100%. AY would have been 375 + tier bonus presumably.

342 points for MIA-SDQ looks like kilometer-based earning with 25% fearfare factor. That does not contradict minimum earning of 750 base points (188 points at 25%).
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SNCF does not fly anywhere to begin with
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Old Feb 25, 19, 1:46 pm
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SNCF does not fly anywhere to begin with
No, but TGV trains can be sold as codeshares on several airlines. I think they usually credit as normal flights to the marketing airline's FFP, but there might be exceptions.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 2:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch View Post
No it was AA code back when they still earned 100%. AY would have been 375 + tier bonus presumably.

342 points for MIA-SDQ looks like kilometer-based earning with 25% fearfare factor. That does not contradict minimum earning of 750 base points (188 points at 25%).
Ah, possibly that. AA earnings nowadays are so crappy that I don't bother to count them much.
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