spek

Pardon my French
but where could i see that kind of info in one screen

gaggia

Yeah, one really would think so! Habitual delays of 30-60 minutes surely results in numerous missed connections and a tremendous inconvenience to Finnair's passengers. For a carrier that's prided itself on punctuality, it's a mystery to me why there's seemingly nothing that they can or will do about this situation.

How do you go about verifying the real reason for the flight delay to make your case to Finnair? What's stopping them from simply claiming "ATC traffic" on a case like this?

goldnext

polar vortex?
*UPDATE* on the splitting Polar Vortex and winter trends across the European continent through mid January ? Severe Weather Europe

temppa

Head wind jetstreams have been quite strong lately




https://earth.nullschool.net/#curren...obaric/250hPa/

gaggia

Interesting hypothesis! Just to play devil's advocate, wouldn't particularly strong headwinds on the jetstream necessarily result in comparable delays on the ARN-NYC route operated by Finnair's competitors? I checked the on-time history of SK903 and DY7005 and I'm not seeing any sorts of comparable delays. SK903 is usually either on-time or a maximum of 15 minutes delayed, and DY7005's recent record is even better than that. How's it possible that winds would be messing up Finnair's schedules but not those of SK and DY?

Also, check out a AY5 on January 5th, for example. Here are the wind conditions that day (https://i.imgur.com/pxXeSuF.jpg) and here is the route that AY5 took that day (https://i.imgur.com/wFU0uIx.jpg). There were no appreciable headwinds that day, and the routing took the plane around most of the strongest crosswinds, too. Distance flown wasn't anything longer than ordinary, either. The plane taxied at JFK for a mere 10 minutes and at HEL for just 12 minutes, but it was nonetheless late by 50 minutes...

steviebaby

AY5 today 12/01 departed HEL 3 hours late. Yesterday on 11th nearly an hour.

OH-LGG

Today it had technical issue and yesterday left gate 10min late.

temppa

True, SK average for ARN-EWR is 8:14 Jan 5th they did exactly that. AY average for HEL-JFK is 8:22, but Jan 5th they made it 8:36. Obviously AY is runnig this route with lower cost index on their FMS. Maybe SK had done better job on their Jet A1 hedging

gaggia

Yet the plane was still 40 minutes delayed after a gate departure delay of just 10 minutes...

ffay005

Your cries have been answered. Just received an email from AY stating that my upcoming AY5 has been rescheduled. STD 12:30, STA 14:25 so flying time is now a whopping 8 hours 55 minutes. Up 20 minutes from the days of the MD-11.

FlyingFinn

Actually both the gate agents and later the captain onboard the flight confirmed in their announcements that "We're waiting for a number of passengers from our delayed Asian arrivals, hence the delay." TMI

'OPR

gaggia

Interesting! The primary reason for the schedule change must be related to something else (like connections at JFK or the schedules of inbound aircraft used on AY5) rather than these delays. After all, the increase in the scheduled flight time is just 10 minutes, which is much less than the average delay...

I was on AY5 on Monday and lo and behold... the plane was more than an hour delayed getting into JFK. The stated reason was that we were waiting for transit passengers from Moscow. Of course, I missed my connection at JFK and wound up getting to my final destination a whopping 4.5 hours late.

The cabin attendants confirmed that AY5 is pretty much delayed all the time. It's a farce and it's beyond me that the airline can't put a stop to these perpetual delays.

reflektia

that's why I dare to book xxx-jfk-hel with 50min connection, since ay6 will be delayed anyhow

ffay005

AY operates an interesting miniwave around AY5/6. As soon as AY6 lands, planes take off to Russia, the Baltics, Poland and the Nordic countries. Of these. SVO and WAW might be the longest flights and SVO the biggest airport. These planes bring pax home and pick up new ones headed for JFK, and are in quite a hurry to reach HEL in time. It is not difficult to believe that winter weather both at HEL and the outstations cause delays that in themselves are minor (deicing queue etc), but they add up and lead to AY5 being late.

It's difficult to say how much this has to do with the US shutdown and how much with winter weather in general. AY5 has also been known to leave pax behind, even when the delays are smallish. Maybe it depends on the number of transfer pax aboard these flights.

However, when the schedule changes, the transfer problem will go away. AY5/6 will not rely on single plane connections after the schedule change.

Clydez

This!
Just booked to SFO transit in LHR. JFK is unpredictable, especially with the immigration in between.