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Old Dec 24, 2018, 3:54 pm
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The following AY short and middle haul flights are currently operated by widebodies:
AY1331/1332 HEL-LHR-HEL, A359, D
AY1337/1338 HEL-LHR-HEL, A333, D

AY1411/1412 HEL-FRA-HEL, A359, 6 (until 29OCT22)

AY1963/1964 HEL-DXB-HEL, A330, 135 (during winter 22-23)

As a rule, service will be the usual AY shorthaul concept both in Y and J, with the exception of IFE (available free of charge to all, with cheap in-ear headphones provided in J and Y) and internet (longhaul rules apply, ie Plats get free wifi for the duration of the flight, Golds and J get one hour). Y+ seats are sold as extra legroom seats with no special service, but cannot be chosen free of charge unless you're Plat or Lumo.

DXB is an exception, see https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/finn...dubai-dxb.html for details.


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Old Apr 20, 2019, 1:00 pm
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Anybody with visibility into the aircraft that AY1341 will be flown with on Thu Apr 25? App says A321 but the app also keeps sending me reminders to upgrade to Economy Comfort. I don’t know what that would mean on an A321.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Originally Posted by _ra_
AY1341 will be flown with on Thu Apr 25?
32B

Upgrade yourself and report us which rows are Comfort on 32B.
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Old Apr 20, 2019, 1:23 pm
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Originally Posted by _ra_
Anybody with visibility into the aircraft that AY1341 will be flown with on Thu Apr 25? App says A321 but the app also keeps sending me reminders to upgrade to Economy Comfort. I don’t know what that would mean on an A321.
it is a glitch.
I am also having a number or narrowbodies coming up and getting pinged by ”your flight has economy comfort available” every day. Hilarious.
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Old Apr 22, 2019, 2:54 pm
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Originally Posted by FFlash


it is a glitch.
I am also having a number or narrowbodies coming up and getting pinged by ”your flight has economy comfort available” every day. Hilarious.
Yes, a funny glitch indeed. Just had an itinerary that involved a Tarom flight and the app tried to offer me an economy comfort seat on a Tarom 737...
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Old Apr 22, 2019, 10:46 pm
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I got the economy comfort message on an upcoming embraer flight, that is upgraded to business.
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Old Jul 15, 2019, 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by EuroFlash
My flight AY1301 from HEL to AMS changed from A321 to A330 on 13th of May. Is this just a one-off?
I'm considering using my Silja Club One points for a flight to AMS (actually visiting Antwerp, which seems to be only an hour away from Schipol by train). I guess there are no upcoming widebody flights that we know of? Would love to pick one if possible.
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 6:45 am
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The Points Guy website has interviewed AY COO Jaakko Schildt, who confirms that cargo is the main reason AY operates widebodies to LHR: "We can definitely see the efficiency in our bottom-line figures, which is great for both the environment and for business,” Finnair’s COO Jaakko Schildt told TPG. “It also benefits us with new cargo potential — hence why we fly the aircraft between London and Helsinki, a big cargo route for us”.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/why-so...mestic-routes/
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Old Jul 16, 2019, 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by ffay005
I'm considering using my Silja Club One points for a flight to AMS (actually visiting Antwerp, which seems to be only an hour away from Schipol by train). I guess there are no upcoming widebody flights that we know of? Would love to pick one if possible.
Originally Posted by ffay005
The Points Guy website has interviewed AY COO Jaakko Schildt, who confirms that cargo is the main reason AY operates widebodies to LHR: "We can definitely see the efficiency in our bottom-line figures, which is great for both the environment and for business,” Finnair’s COO Jaakko Schildt told TPG. “It also benefits us with new cargo potential — hence why we fly the aircraft between London and Helsinki, a big cargo route for us”.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/why-so...mestic-routes/
AY's cargo site has schedule information, which might provide more information on routes with widebodies. The SkyChain platform seems to allow searching by origin-destination pair, as well all flights from a station.
https://cargo.finnair.com/en/service...ortation-modes
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Old Jul 22, 2019, 11:32 am
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A330 to Málaga?

Hi,
Does anyone know if Finnair plans on using the A330 to Málaga (AGP) this coming Christmas, like they did last year? Or, when would the frames for this route should post? Thanks!
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 10:00 am
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AY1331 HEL-LHR 27OCT19-28MAR20 retimed to 07:50-09.10
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 10:48 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
AY1331 HEL-LHR 27OCT19-28MAR20 retimed to 07:50-09.10
So 10 more spare minutes to improve on time performance.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 10:51 am
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A350 is getting old and slow.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 11:04 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
AY1331 HEL-LHR 27OCT19-28MAR20 retimed to 07:50-09.10
More rush from domestic connecting flights, out from Premium lounge time. Not good for me...
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 12:00 pm
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Between the removal of bags of customers not eligible for international transit through UK airports, and the holding pattern on approach to Heathrow, it is not entirely suprising that the flight got retimed.
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Old Jul 24, 2019, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
Between the removal of bags of customers not eligible for international transit through UK airports, and the holding pattern on approach to Heathrow, it is not entirely suprising that the flight got retimed.
Most of the delays I witnessed on AY1331 was not due to holdings in LHR but rather due to late departure from HEL due to congestion or weather / wait for deicing...

Not sure what you mean by the eligibility for international transit in UK airports.

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