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Old Jul 29, 2019, 7:58 am
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Chinese carriers' current schedule to HEL (Nov 2019)
  • Sichuan Airlines (A333):
    • CTU 02:00 – HEL 06:00 15
    • HEL 08:35 – CPH 09:10 15
    • CPH 10:55 – HEL 13:35 15
    • HEL 15:45 – CTU 05:00(+1) 15
  • Juneyao Airlines (B789)
    (long-haul marketed also by Finnair and China Eastern)
    • PVG 01:20 – 05:20 HEL 246 -28MAR20
    • HEL 15:30 – 06:30(+1) PVG 246 -28MAR20
    • PVG 00:55 – 06:00 HEL D 29MAR20-
    • HEL 07:30 – 08:30 MAN 135 29MAR20-
    • MAN 10:00 – 15:10 HEL 135 29MAR20-
    • HEL 07:30 – 08:20 KEF 26 29MAR20-
    • KEF 09:50 – 16:20 HEL 26 29MAR20-
    • HEL 07:30 – 08:45 DUB 47 29MAR20-
    • DUB 10:00 – 15:10 HEL 47 29MAR20-
    • HEL 16:35 – 06:35(+1) PVG 13457 29MAR20-
    • HEL 17:50 – 07:50(+1) PVG 26 29MAR20-
  • Tibet Airlines (A333):
    • TNA 16:05 – 19:30 HEL 1
    • HEL 21:30 – 13:00(+1) TNA 1
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 2:54 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
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It seems that Chinese airlines are testing the ice - sooner or later some of them will actually fly and some of those will actually remain.
Originally Posted by Superrman
Are Finnish companies doing much business in the Shandong area somehow? It's not a touristy region at all besides Qingdao, barely.
Maybe they are hoping to fulfil the "Asian strategy" that Finnair only dreams of
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 3:14 am
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Originally Posted by intuition
Maybe they are hoping to fulfil the "Asian strategy" that Finnair only dreams of
HU (Hainan Airlines) is set to start a PEK-OSL direct route this year, so maybe the Chinese side sees Nordics as a big growth market?

OSL has kind of neglected Asia outside of BKK due to stronger competition from ARN, CPH and HEL, so I don't mind
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 5:17 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
I don't see AY codesharing with HO on the PVG route
They do already have a MoU regarding the codeshare, so it might actually happen. With this schedule the westbound flight would attract passengers connecting to AY, but the eastbound flight would have only limited connections from AY.
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by r2d2
With this schedule the westbound flight would attract passengers connecting to AY, but the eastbound flight would have only limited connections from AY.
There is a handful of overnighters that leave Europe between 7 am and 8 am in the morning, reaching HEL well in time for the HO departure. Nordic and Baltic capitals also have connections to HO. So with a major destination, like PVG, this could actually work even if the arrival time at PVG is horrendous.
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 10:00 am
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The same Finnish forum thread claims the following schedule:

TNA-HEL 15:30-19:30
HEL-TNA 22:30-13:15(+1)

Like HO, connection opportunities at HEL are rather limited with such schedule. There are not many flights arriving in the evening mini-wave, and even that would involve several hours layover.
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Old Jan 18, 2019, 12:57 pm
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Originally Posted by TPJ
Tibet Airlines has announced that they’ll launch 2x weekly flights between Jinan and Helsinki as of April 8, 2019. /QUOTE]

Next steps:
- open Google Maps
- search for Jinan
- think if TNA-HEL service even makes sense
It came up earlier - my comment was that 1) check how many international flights they currently have (3 or 4) and 2) that they have currently no flights to/from TNA.
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Old Jan 23, 2019, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by Superrman
Are Finnish companies doing much business in the Shandong area somehow? It's not a touristy region at all besides Qingdao, barely.
It's a state-owned airline (I think owned by CA?) so business case is secondary. I wonder why it chooses Jinan instead of a city where it's already flying from. Maybe big subsidies ...
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 7:32 am
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Sorry off topic post, but didn't want to start a new thread for this.
We are booking July to Bali for honeymoon. Possibly 24th July - 2n Aug (+/-2day)

I wanted to get 2 Y tickets with AY(upgrade both) transit in HKG then continue with CX.
To my surprise there is almost no availability on CX in economy, only economy pro (close to 2k one way). left me with HX as option.
Never done HX before, can i get our luggage directly to DPS or i need a hassle(re-check in luggages) in HKG? I assume it can be done, as AY sells their tickets. If HX doesnt workout with luggage i will have to go with QR.

advices please?
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by Clydez
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Never done HX before, can i get our luggage directly to DPS or i need a hassle(re-check in luggages) in HKG?
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One ticket or separate tickets?
If one ticket sold by AY, bags checked to final destination.

If two tickets, AY ferociously refuses to check to final.
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 9:09 am
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AY sells interlines with HX to some destinations, and it can indeed be cheaper than CX/KA. I was checking HEL-HKG-SYX (though gave up). However note that you will not get any Oneworld benefits on the HX legs.
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 10:55 am
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
…. However note that you will not get any Oneworld benefits on the HX legs.
Ouch! Wouldn't like to change in HKG without having access to CX lounges...
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 11:02 am
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Originally Posted by Steve_Hun
Ouch! Wouldn't like to change in HKG without having access to CX lounges...
There is always the VIP lounge of CNAC.



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Old Jan 29, 2019, 11:05 am
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On which basis would you have access though? With Diners Club ending (in Nordic countries), sone gone are the days of free lounge access for the occasionally disloyal!
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 11:07 am
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Originally Posted by intuition
One ticket or separate tickets?
If one ticket sold by AY, bags checked to final destination.

If two tickets, AY ferociously refuses to check to final.
one ticket, selling directly on AY website.

Thanks. I guess HX would work then. Missing the CX lounge though!!!!
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 11:09 am
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Actually could do outbound with AY+CX and inbound with AY+HX as a compromise. Not too bad Cant have everything at once .
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