vanillabean

If you are using the Finnair app, where would I find any information on passengers? I don’t see even their names.

Carotthat

So I could "only" forward the existing booking to the future, and book a new, cheaper one

dogcanyon

Does anybody know the booking class (A, G, N, O, Q, S, W, Z, etc) for transatlantic Finnair
Economy Light fares? Trying to calculate the earnings for the American Airlines program on
a LAX-MAD-HEL-LAX itinerary where LAX-MAD is a Finnair codeshare operated by Iberia.
Orbitz usually shows the actual booking class, but in this case it does not.

Im a new user

Economy Light is a ticket type, not a booking class. I think all economy booking classes except possibly A and G currently can be used for Economy Light.

vanillabean

I recently purchased RT CPH-HEL-JFK. Outbound was Q, inbound was S.

I'm a bit on edge because these early fall TATL flights are practically empty.

dogcanyon

Thank you both.

Wizard_of_OZ

Hi Finnair Fans,

I am reasonably experienced with frequent flyer programs (OZ Diamond, AA Gold (former Plat)) and thought Finnair Plus had some nice opportunities for OWS and OWE for US-based flyers. Not too familiar with Flyertalk so please let me know if this post should go somewhere else.

Finnair's program appears attractive to me because of the opportunity to just qualify off of flight segments (46 for Gold, 76 for Plat) and getting OWS, OWE lounge access for use on AA/AS. However, looking through Flyertalk and Google it doesn't seem like a lot of people take advantage of Finnair Status instead of AA status in the U.S. I am wondering why that is and if there is a downside to the program that I am missing?

For context I am investigating Finnair Gold status for my wife who flies a lot of cheap and short routes that require a layover (does CHS-CLT-STL RT once a month). From what I have read it appears this would give her Finnair Gold and OWS status after a year (48 segments). This would give her access to AA lounges domestically as well as MCE seats on AA.

Thanks for any advice!

miamiflyer8

Welcome to FT and the AY+ forum!

The only two downsides I see are not being able to take advantage of any upgrades (whether complimentary via 500 milers or other instruments) when flying AA and is the nowadays. The other is the nowadays meager earnings from AA flights, they used to credit 100% even from the cheapest coach fare buckets to AY+ but that ended 4-5yrs ago. There was also a time when AAdvantage was a great option for us AY flyers. AY+ isn't a particularly well-known program, I only know one guy on the AA forum who uses AY+ as their main FFP. Most seem to stick to BAEC for their non-AA OW status thanks to largely buying F and earning it via tier points instead of segments.

If you qualify for Plat, you can gift Gold to your wife regardless of her activity so this is something you can look into if your wife happens to fall short on segments.

Wizard_of_OZ

Thanks for the quick response!

The loss of 500 mile upgrades is a bummer, but talking with her she prefers lounge access over ~8 upgrades a year (she may not fly more than 25k miles and you get 4 per 12.5k I believe).

The loss of frequent flyer kms stinks but I think the loss will be relatively minor since she flies on cheaper AA tickets. That does bring up a question: I have seen that Finnair gives points based on km's flown but is their award chart showing kms or some other metric when you go to redeem your points (does 1 km flown= 1 point towards flight price on award chart)?

I'd be curious to know why your friend has stuck with AY+ over BAEC, she never buys F and looking at BAEC I don't see a path to status with them.

miamiflyer8

Short answer, yes 1km=1pt but it all depends on how quickly you earn points (be it booking class bonus or other methods).

I don't know the guy personally, I just recall him mentioning switching from AA EXP to AY Plat, IIRC he purchased paid J on AY and wanted the upgrade vouchers so it made sense for him.

Wizard_of_OZ

Awesome thanks! That definitely adds value to them (makes the redemption costs look a lot better).

Makes sense.

ffay005

Is there still a requirement to fly a few flights on AY metal in order to qualify for status? I'm not sure, it could have been abolished.

Wizard_of_OZ

That appears to only be a requirement for LUMO (https://www.finnair.com/us-en/finnai...-platinum-lumo)

lkrt

I don't recall such a requirement at least during the past 8 years.

on22cz

IIRC the requirement is or was in T&C but never been enforced for program participation. Lumo has it officially for tier qualifications, so maybe even the T&C saying was updated.