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When seeking claims from AY, use this form: https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/infor...vices/feedbackAY will not accept claims by email, phone or in person.

Past decisions of the Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) relating to Regulation 261/2004 (by judgment date in chronological order):
  • Sturgeon v Condor (Case C-402/07): Passengers who reach their final destination at least 3 hours late because their flight was delayed are entitled to the amount of compensation laid down in Article 7 of the Regulation.
  • Wallentin-Hermann v Alitalia (Case C-549/07): ‘Extraordinary circumstances’ (which release airlines from their obligation to compensate passengers) do not include aircraft technical problems (unless the problem stems from events which, by their nature or origin, are not inherent in the normal exercise of the activity of the air carrier concerned and are beyond its actual control). See also van der Lans v KLM below.
  • Rehder v Air Baltic (Case C-204/08): Passengers can file a legal claim either in the jurisdiction of the place of departure or the jurisdiction of the place of arrival
  • Rodríguez v Air France (Case C-83/10): The term ‘cancellation’ in the Regulation includes the situation where the aircraft took off but had to return to the departure airport and passengers were transferred to other flights.
  • Eglītis v Latvijas Republikas Ekonomikas ministrija (Case C-294/10): At the stage of organising the flight, the airline is required to provide for a certain reserve time to allow it, if possible, to operate the flight in its entirety once the extraordinary circumstances have come to an end.
  • Nelson v Lufthansa (Case C-581/10): The Court reaffirmed its previous decision (Sturgeon v Condor).
  • Folkerts v Air France (Case C-11/11): Passengers on directly connecting flights who arrive at their final destination at least 3 hours late are entitled to compensation.
  • McDonagh v Ryanair (Case C-12/11): Even where a flight delay/cancellation is caused by ‘extraordinary circumstances’, the airline continues to be under a duty to provide care (in the form of accommodation, meals, transfers between the airport/hotel, telephone calls)
  • Finnair v Lassooy (Case C–22/11): The term ‘denied boarding’ in the Regulation covers cases where boarding is denied because of overbooking, as well as other reasons.
  • Moré v KLM (Case C-139/11): The time limit for filing a legal claim is based on the rules governing limitation periods in the Member State where the claim is filed.
  • Rodríguez Cachafeiro v Iberia (Case C 321/11): The term ‘denied boarding’ in the Regulation includes a situation where, in the context of a single contract of carriage (PNR) on immediately connecting flights and a single check-in, an airline denies boarding to some passengers because the first flight had been delayed and it mistakenly expected those passengers not to arrive in time to board the second flight.
  • Germanwings v Henning (Case C 452/13): The concept of ‘arrival time’, which is used to determine the length of the flight delay, refers to the time at which at least one of the doors of the aircraft was opened, as long as, at that moment, passengers were actually permitted to leave the aircraft.
  • van der Lans v KLM (Case C-257/14): ‘Extraordinary circumstances’ (which release airlines from their obligation to compensate passengers) do not include aircraft technical problems which occur unexpectedly, which are not attributable to poor maintenance and which are also not detected during routine maintenance checks.
  • Mennens v Emirates (Case C 255/15): Where passengers are downgraded on a particular flight, the ‘price of the ticket’ refers to the price of that particular flight, but if this information is not indicated on the ticket, the price of that particular flight out of the total fare is calculated by working out the distance of that flight divided by the total distance of the flight itinerary on the ticket. Taxes and charges are not included in the reimbursement of the ticket price/fare, unless the tax/charge is dependent on the class of travel.
  • Pešková v Travel Service (Case C‑315/15): A bird strike constitutes 'extraordinary circumstances'. However, even if a flight delay/cancellation is caused by an event constituting 'extraordinary circumstances', an airline is only released from its duty to pay compensation if it took all reasonable measures to avoid the delay/cancellation. To determine this, the court will consider what measures could actually be taken by the airline, directly or indirectly, without requiring it to make intolerable sacrifices. Further, even if all of these conditions are met, it is necessary to distinguish between the length of the delay caused by extraordinary circumstances (which could not have been avoided by all reasonable measures) and the length of the delay caused by other circumstances. For the purpose of calculating the length of the qualifying delay for compensation, the delay falling into the former category would be deducted from the total delay.
  • Krijgsman v SLM (C‑302/16): Where a passenger has booked a flight through a travel agent, and that flight has been cancelled, but notification of the cancellation was not communicated to the passenger by the travel agent or airline at least 14 days prior to departure, the passenger is entitled to compensation.
  • Bossen v Brussels Airlines (C‑559/16): On a flight itinerary involving connecting flights, the distance is calculated by using ‘great circle’ method from the origin to the final destination, regardless of the distance actually flown.
  • Krüsemann v TUIfly (C‑195/17): The spontaneous absence of a significant number of flight crew staff (‘wildcat strikes’) does not constitute 'extraordinary circumstances'.
  • Wegener v Royal Air Maroc (C‑537/17): The Court reaffirmed its previous decision (Folkerts v Air France).
  • Wirth v Thomson Airways (C‑532/17): Where there is a 'wet lease' (with the lessor carrier providing an aircraft, including crew, to the lessee airline, but without the lessor bearing operational responsibility for the flight in question), the lessor carrier is not responsible under the Regulation.
  • Harms v Vueling (C‑601/17): For the purpose of calculating the ticket price, the difference between the amount paid by the passenger and the amount received by the air carrier (corresponding to the commission collected by a person acting as an intermediary between those two parties) is included in the ticket price, unless that commission was set without the knowledge of the air carrier.
  • CS v České aerolinie (C‑502/18): For a journey with 2 connecting flights (in a single reservation) departing from an EU member state and to a final destination outside the EU via an airport outside the EU, a passenger who is delayed by 3 hours or more in reaching the final destination because of a delay in the second flight which is operated as a codeshare flight by a non-EU carrier may bring an action for compensation against the EU air carrier that performed the first flight.

European Commission's Interpretative Guidelines (note that this policy document is persuasive, but only the CJEU's interpretation of Regulation 261/2004 is authoritative and binding): http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-conte...XC0615%2801%29. National courts do not have to follow the European Commission's Interpretative Guidelines (but are obliged to follow the CJEU's case-law). For example, although the European Commission takes the view that 'missed connecting flights due to significant delays at security checks or passengers failing to respect the boarding time of their flight at their airport of transfer do not give entitlement to compensation' (para 4.4.7 of the Interpretative Guidelines), the Edinburgh Sheriff Court took a different view in Caldwell v easyJet. Sheriff T Welsh QC held that 'the facts proved can properly be characterised as denied boarding because of the operational inadequacies of Easyjet ground staff’s management of the Easyjet queues on 14 September 2014 and their failure to facilitate passage through security check, customs and passport control when asked, in circumstances, where it was obvious the passengers were in danger of missing their flight'.

When AY+ Flight Reason AY Offered AY explanation Won/Lost, How, Time

Summer13 no status (HKG-)HEL-LHR Prior to landing, LHR was closed as the fire services there were unavailable, so the flight was diverted and landed in LTN, where passengers were offloaded. However, the plane then flew from LTN to LHR with luggage in the hold, so passengers had to make their own way to LHR to retrieve their luggage (as AY provided no ground transport arrangements), eventually arriving at LHR and reclaiming baggage over 6 hours later than the scheduled arrival time. Requested 600€ plus transport and phone call costs incurred, but AY only agreed to reimburse transport and phone call costs AY claimed that 'the delay of this flight happened in extraordinary circumstances' Filed claim through ESCP in the County Court in England. AY contested the claim. The Court ruled against AY. In its judgment, the Court cited CJEU's decision in Eglitis and Wallentin-Hermann and rejected AY's defence as the flight diversion only caused a small initial delay. AY failed to discharge its burden of proof that it took all reasonable measures, as evidenced by proper contingency plans and steps to assist passengers at LTN. The delay in arrival at LHR was significantly lengthened by this factor. AY eventually paid the damages and costs awarded by the Court.

Summer13 no status (LHR-)HEL-HKG Technical fault Requested 600€ plus phone call costs incurred, but AY only agreed to reimburse phone call costs AY initially claimed that the technical fault was not foreseeable Filed claim through ESCP in the County Court in England. AY conceded the claim and eventually paid 600€ + phone call costs + court costs.

Fall15 AYG HEL-LHR-US HEL-LHR late, miss connect 200€ voucher, reroute 3,5 hours requested 600€, re-offered 400€ due to <4 hours -> accepted.

Nov15 AYS HEL-AMS Equip swap -> rerouting 3+ hours 400€ cash (as per EC261) or 550€ voucher offered in 2 days accepted

Jan16 AYP KUO-HEL ATR crew shortage, cancelled 50€ voucher Claimed EU 261 + taxi + hotel. NO -> paid taxi+hotel -> escalated to KRIL -> NoRRA offered 250€ voucher. Accepted

Jan16 AYS WAW-HEL "extraordinary crew shortage" 50€ voucher raised to "kuluttajaoikeusneuvoja". They state that crew shortage can usually not be declared an extraordinary -> escalated to KRIL -> AY offered 150€ -> declined -> AY offers 200€ voucher -> Accepted. 8 months to resolve the matter!

Jan16 AA Platinum = OWS BKK-HEL delay, no equip combined 300€ voucher (for 2 pers) extraordinary manufacturing fault of A350 declined offer -> escalated to KRIL -> AY offered 680€ voucher / 400 cash (for 2 pers) -> declined -> KRIL decision Feb18 = AY should compensate 300€ / pax

Q1/16 ?? JFK-HEL diverted back to JFK ?? technical fail, new equip escalated to KRIL -> 600€ offered, accepted

Feb16 ?? (LHR-)HEL-PEK cancelled, re-routed, arrived at PEK with 20 hr delay and, because of this, missed seeing dying grandfather by a few hours ?? 'extraordinary circumstances' due to pilot sickness, AY refused compensation -> filed small claim in England and won (see Guardian article)

Feb16 ?? HEL-PEK 6h delay 150€ voucher manufacture fail of A350 ??

Q1/16 AYG LHR-HEL A350 broke up 50€ voucher ??

?? OWE HKG-HEL 6h delay (A350) 600€*2pers ?? 2 weeks wait only for compensation

?? ?? BKK-HEL 13h delay 600€ cash / 800€ voucher ?? Just 2 days to get compensation, accepted 800 voucher

Q1/16 ?? BKK-HEL misconnect, 6h delay 400/€550€ misconnect raised the discance to apply 600 -> offered 600€ cash / 800 voucher

Mar16 AYP PVG-HEL cancel, reroute, 12h delay 600/800€ cancel&reroute 800€ voucher accepted

?? ?? ?? cancelled, long delay 600/800 technical fault accepted

Mar16 ?? HEL-HKG 8h delay 200€ voucher extraordinary fail A350 escalated to KRIL -> no info

Nov16 OWE (LHR-)HEL-TLL overnight delay nothing NoRRA pilot shortage Claim for EUR 400 filed in the England and Wales small claims track (not ESCP), AY admitted the whole of the claim a few days before the hearing (details)

???16 AYS PEK-HEL cancelled 100/200€ sick pilot, no overtime declined -> escalated to KRIL. No info yet.

Feb17 OWE BKK-HEL-LHR 2h delay in BKK, misconnect in HEL 600€ cash / 800€ voucher ?? Submitted compensation request, AY responded around one week later, accepted 800€ voucher (details)

Feb 2017 AYP KUO-HEL 06:00 cancelled ATR shortage HEL-LHR was missed, at LHR 6 h late €400 in cash or €550 AY voucher. Returning HEL-KUO 23:40 cancelled ATR shortage rerouted to JOE, bus to KUO, at KUO 2h 40min late €250 in cash or €350 AY voucher.

Apr 2017 OWE TLL-HEL-LHR AY118 delayed from TLL-HEL "crew rest" then later, "Try Norra, not us" €400 claimed. Rejected. MCOL in UK. Disputed by AY. County Court civil case, Oxford (10/11/17) Judgement : AY was the operating carrier under EC2111/2005, compensation and costs and expenses awarded.

Apr 2017 OWE TLL-HEL-LHR AY118 delayed from TLL-HEL "crew rest" then later, "Try Norra, not us", then "Delayed due to weather" €400 claimed. Rejected. 2 seperate agencies tried but gave up on the case. European Small Claims Procedure started at Den Haag sub-district court, AY didn't defend. Judgement (11/6/2019): compensation, costs and interest awarded.

Dec 2017 AY Gold AY HEL-KOK operated by Norra canceled due to crew shortage, delay due to reroute >3 hours EUR 250 claimed. Accepted by AY and an alternative of a EUR 350 voucher offered.

May 28 2017 AYP, AY 380 KUO-HEL was cancelled due to lack of planes (admitted by Finnair - Flightradar 24 gold is an invaluable tool for this sherlockholmesing: one KUO flight was cancelled in the previous evening as OH-LKM had broken in HAM and it should have taken care of the next morning KUO-HEL flight 7:30, OH-LKP arrived late from GVA 23:40 and took off to KUO well after midnight being there 01:33, OH-LKP should have flown KUO-HEL flight 6:15 but crew rest prevented this, OH-LKP flew KUO-HEL 7:30 flight instead). Missed LHR connection. Arrived at LHR 5 h 54 min later than planned. EUR 400 or voucher of EUR 600 was offered without any resent.

Dec 2018. HEL-LPA delayed 4 hours because routine maintenance took longer than expected. Pax AY Plat. Compensation paid within 24 hours (offered €400 cash or €550 voucher).

Some more cases from earlier history can be read HERE (unfortunately only in Finnish)

List of National Enforcement Bodies (NEBs) in EU/EEA Member States and Switzerland published by the European Commission (updated: April 2018): https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...ent_bodies.pdf

European Commission's guidelines with criteria for determining which NEB is competent for handling complaints (updated: April 2017): https://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites...procedures.pdf

If you decide to engage a claim agency/lawyer to pursue your claim, please first read the Information Notice published by the European Commission (updated: March 2017): http://ec.europa.eu/transport/sites/...gencies_en.pdf

To file a court claim, the CJEU stated in Rehder (see above) the criteria for determining which Member State's court has jurisdiction. If you booked a package combining flight(s) and accommodation, Advocate General Sharpston stated in her Opinion in Flight Refund v Lufthansa (Case C‑94/14) at paras 9 and 59-60 that a consumer claiming compensation under Regulation 261/2004 can file a court claim in the jurisdiction where he/she habitually resides, as an alternative to filing a court claim in the jurisdiction of the airport of departure or arrival.

You can file a claim at a court with jurisdiction to rule on your case either through the national procedure or through the European Small Claims Procedure (ESCP). The ESCP is a primarily written procedure and is available where the claimant and defendant are domiciled in different EU Member States (with the exception of Denmark) for claims up to EUR 2,000 (increasing to EUR 5,000 with effect from 14 July 2017).
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 2:08 am
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
As I said when you have your case handler you should get a quick reply. In my case I got the message you got and one day later I had an offer that I accepted. One more day passed and I had my voucher.
I wish I had the same experience.

I am STILL waiting for my 'case handler' to resolve mine.

I'm getting seriously peeved off. What is the next step in making an official complaint in the amount of time Finnair is taking?
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 2:10 am
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I came to think about a scenario. If one's doing an ex-EU back-to-back, and the flight ex-HEL would be late, would one be entitled to two different EC261 compensations, given that the both flights would be more than three hours late and on different PNR's?
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 3:06 am
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Probably. Finnair and other airlines have stated very clearly that separate tickets are separate contracts.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 4:56 am
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According to a Finnish news article Finnair won't pay EU compensation to Finnish clients who have used AirHelp to get their compensation. For non-Finns AIrHelp is ok. According to Finnair this is due to that AirHelp is a non-authorized debt collector, even though the Finnish authorities are not of that opinion.

As usual, Finnair does all it can not to pay - and especially not to pay to Finns
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 8:15 am
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Finnair's actions are very interesting. Even if AirHelp were an unauthorized debt collection agency, it is a matter for the authorities to handle. It is not for Finnair to decide who shall be entitled to collect EU 261 compensation on behalf of passengers.
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Old Jun 16, 2017, 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by wanderingjock
I was on the same delayed flight - thanks for the info, and I'll try MCOL and report back.
I was on the same delayed TLL-HEL-LHR flights as Tobitronics and jh321 and registered a MCOL claim and today received the written response / denial.

AY have said (after delay in changing the forms to their HEL office, not the UK HQ, that "the flight in question AY118 on 30-4 was operated by Nordic regional Airlines, see attch 1 [flightstats printout of flight times]. Any liability....lies on operating carrier thus Finnair is wrong defendant. NRA can be contacted by email on [email protected] . Vantaa 14 June 17"

MCOL now saying I need to go to Small Claims - which I will do - and ask if I want to do mediation first (which is a phone call , so i probably will do this too).

I've read the Norra thread and helps convince me that AY are liable - but I will provisionally schedule an expert witness to describe the Norra-AY relationship at court. Any volunteers in the UK, and you'll get time/expenses paid when i win

I'm opting for the Oxford courts as it is close to my home.
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Old Jun 17, 2017, 4:22 am
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Yesterday June 16th AY0646 was 1,20 hours late. Not ONCE did the cockpit take the microphone in order to excuse for the delay and to explain its reason.

My guess is: in order to avoid EU compensation claims, since the reason for the delay must have been such that entitles for the compensation...
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Old Jun 17, 2017, 8:13 am
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1h12 delay is not a cause for EC261 compensation in any case.
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Old Jun 17, 2017, 8:17 am
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
1h12 delay is not a cause for EC261 compensation in any case.
I DO KNOW that! It depends on the connecting flights.
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Old Jun 23, 2017, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by Nuster
Dispute lodged. I asked AY when the TFU was issued but received no answer. The frame I was on was 364 days old since delivery.
Finnair Oyj (hereinafter "Finnair”) denies ali the claims presented by Nuster in their entirety and presents respectfully as its
ansvver the following:
The description of the flight cancellation situation and consequences thereof to the
Passengers
The Finnair flight AY081 January 2017 Helsinki-
Singapore was cancelled. Finnair re-routed the
Passengers from Helsinki to Singapore via Bangkok the next day.
They arrived in Bangkok ca. 25 hours later than according to the
original itinerary.
The reason for the cancellation of the Passengers1 flight was a
sudden and totally unforeseeable event at Helsinki airport that
occurred after the aircraft had already started to taxi tovvards the
runway. There vvas a fault in the Wing Anti-lce System. The nature
of the fault prevented the operation of the aircraft. Finnair carried
out a process of locating and investigating the technical fault in
question. As soon as during the measures taken it become clear
that the fault can’t be repaired soon, the flight had to be cancelled.
It was question of a new aircraft that had been taken into
o pe ratio n on 23 June 2016.

The aircraft manufacturer Airbus h as together with Honeywell, the
manufacturer of certain components in the VVing Anti-lce System,
investigated the problem. This type of problem h as occurred also
at other airlines which operate this new aircraft type Airbus A350.
After those investigations Airbus h as confirmed that it is question
of a hidden design defect in the system concerned. The outcome
of the analysis of the root cause relating to this problem is that the
Control logic of the VVing Anti-lce System h as been defective. The
initial Technical Follow-up document (“TFU”) is dated on 19
January 2017 and it h as been revised on 31 May 2017. TFU s are
confidential documents of Airbus and can be disclosed based on
a respective court order only.
The cancellation of the flight AY081 Helsinki-Singapore was
caused by extraordinary circumstances. The situation was not
inherent in the normal exercise of the activity of Finnair and the
situation was beyond Fin n aids actual Control.
Finnair h as taken ali measures possible in the existing situation to
i) solve the problem as soon as possible and ii) transport the
Passengers to their destination as soon as possible. It was
impossible to repair the technical fault at that moment to ensure
the airworthiness of the aircraft, and consequently, the
cancellation of the Passengers' flight was unavoidable.
The description of the problem and the measures taken is based
on the information received from the Finnair Technical
Department. Finnair is willing to hear its technical experts as
witnesses in order to clarify the nature of this technical fault
concerned, the measures available regarding this hidden design
defect on the day of occurrence and in respect of Finnair’s entire
Airbus A350 fleet f ro m time to time.
The claims of the Passengers
The Passengers claim an amount of 600 euros per Passenger
based on EU Regulation 261/2004. Finnair denies that it would
be liable to pay compensation of 600 euros on the basis of EU
Regulation 261/2004.
The cancellation of this flight h as happened in extraordinary
circumstances referred to in the EU Regulation 261/2004.
Finnair has also taken in the existing situation ali measures that
could reasonably be required and it was impossible to take any
other action in the matter.
In addition, the Passengers claim a cost of accommodation in
Helsinki prior to the begin of the re-routing. The Passengers have
send to the Finnish Consumer Disputes Board a receipt of Hotel
Hilton amounting to 150 euros. Finnair is vvilling to pay this
required amount of 150 euros to the Passengers.
Proposal for settlement
As a gesture of goodvvill and in order to find an amicable solution
in this dispute Finnair offers to the Passengers together as a final
settlement in the matter an amount of 480 euros in cash in total,
or alternatively, one voucher of 730 euros for buying of Finnair's
flights. The validity of the voucher is one year calculated from
issuance, but the flight can be later, i.e. maximum of one year
calculated f ro m booking. Please n ote also that the voucher is
transferable and it can be used for several bookings, if the vvhole
value of the voucher is not used for the first booking.
This offer is valid until 17 July 2017 and it includes the mentioned
cost of the accommodation, i.e. in case of acceptance of the
proposed settlement the cost of accommodation vvill not be paid
separately.
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 12:44 am
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Hi, I had a very annoying trip with Finnair yesterday as my flight DUS-HEL was delayed and I missed my connection HEL-SFO. I was re-routed HEL-ORD-SFO and arrived in SFO 6 hrs late.
I would like to file for compensation, but cannot find any email address of Finnair's customer service dept.
Does anyone have their email address please?

I have found the form on the website, but I would like to upload additional files, so I would prefer email.

Thank you!
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Old Jun 24, 2017, 5:45 am
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Originally Posted by DUSTraveller
Hi, I had a very annoying trip with Finnair yesterday as my flight DUS-HEL was delayed and I missed my connection HEL-SFO. I was re-routed HEL-ORD-SFO and arrived in SFO 6 hrs late.
I would like to file for compensation, but cannot find any email address of Finnair's customer service dept.
Does anyone have their email address please?

I have found the form on the website, but I would like to upload additional files, so I would prefer email.

Thank you!
@DUSTraveller: PM sent
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 12:38 am
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whike I will be not accepting the offer I posted just above, I was wondering if anyone had any similar experience? Thanks
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 1:14 am
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Originally Posted by Nuster
whike I will be not accepting the offer I posted just above, I was wondering if anyone had any similar experience? Thanks
I have had similar experience several times. My experience is that AY will not pay. Personally I would advise you to accept the offer in order to spare your time, money and nervs.

Still I do think that it is a shame that AY is unwilling to follow the EU regulations.
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Old Jun 26, 2017, 1:20 am
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Finnair will do everything in its power to use the argument of 'extraordinary circumstances', if at all possible for them.

However, if it's a clear case, they often just pay.
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