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Old Jan 15, 2019, 1:44 pm
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Originally Posted by flymetoHEL
You can walk from your arrival gate directly to the lounges in T3.
Is it possible to use the lounge more than 3 hours prior to the departure, though?

Terminals around the FCC are different. You'd have to go through the FCC to reach the lounges in the departure lobby.
Originally Posted by PeeterL
Yes, you can go to the lounge for breakfast, if you can obtain a boarding pass for your return flight. Use the boarding pass to go airside. When you come back to the airport in the evening, you have to speak to an airport employee at the gates to security, to let you go airside for the second time with the same boarding pass.
Looks like these info are contradictory in terms of direct airside access on arrival vs going out and in again. What gives?
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 1:46 pm
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Originally Posted by flymetoHEL
You can walk from your arrival gate directly to the lounges in T3.
What??? Since when? LHR arrivals are separated.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:16 am
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Originally Posted by cistavoda
What??? Since when? LHR arrivals are separated.
Over the years I had exactly one such occasion, when we were dumped (by mistake, surely) directly to "airside" instead of "arrivals" side.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:32 am
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So, this far I have now understood that arrivals are separated.
tried to find more info on BA board but drowned into a vast pile of posts.

Again: arriving AY at T3 9:10am wanting to utilize T3 First lounges, then go to city around 11am, come back to T3 at 6pm for 19:25pm AY service back to HEL. Is this allowed, possible and how do I make smoothest entry to lounges in the morning?
Thankful if someone can write an idiot-proof simple instruction a la ”rautalangasta”
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:36 am
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I haven't done this, but why not use the transfer route, or, alternatively, go landside and back through security? If you have your boarding pass for the evening flight this will work. You are not entitled to use the lounge with your arriving boarding pass, though.

However, I am not sure how you would exit T3 then. There must be a route (I know of one in T5), but not the one in T3.

I am not sure if there is a time limit to access the lounge. Maximum I have spent at CX lounge was 4 hours between flights.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:36 am
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Technically it’s possible. After arrival you go through security check and then to CX lounge. My worries are whether they will let you in again in the evening both through the security check and the lounge with the same boarding pass that’s already been used.

I also don’t know how to exit from T3 airside or if that’s even possible.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:43 am
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I guess what you'd need to do is to follow "Transfers" on arrival, go through security with your evening B/P and use the lounges. When you're ready to go, you CAN leave the transit area, though it's not very obvious where/how. There's a door right after security which leads back to arrivals (or used to be, I haven't used it for a while). You may just have have to ask if you can't find it.

This however might mean problems when you try to go through security AGAIN in the evening, where they scan your B/P and it'll beep and show that this B/P has already been used to pass the checkpoint.

Frankly I just wouldn't do it, too much headache for a couple of glasses of champagne. I'd head to town in the morning and use the lounges in the evening.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:44 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
So, this far I have now understood that arrivals are separated.
tried to find more info on BA board but drowned into a vast pile of posts.

Again: arriving AY at T3 9:10am wanting to utilize T3 First lounges, then go to city around 11am, come back to T3 at 6pm for 19:25pm AY service back to HEL. Is this allowed, possible and how do I make smoothest entry to lounges in the morning?
Thankful if someone can write an idiot-proof simple instruction a la ”rautalangasta”
It is possible to go through Flight Connections to T3 departures. However, based on stuff I read on the BA forum, keep in mind that to get out of departures without flying you have to ask a member of staff to escort you out and mark it in their systems that you have left the area. They only allow you through security once with a BP. I do not recommend this.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 1:12 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
So, this far I have now understood that arrivals are separated.
tried to find more info on BA board but drowned into a vast pile of posts.

Again: arriving AY at T3 9:10am wanting to utilize T3 First lounges, then go to city around 11am, come back to T3 at 6pm for 19:25pm AY service back to HEL. Is this allowed, possible and how do I make smoothest entry to lounges in the morning?
Thankful if someone can write an idiot-proof simple instruction a la ”rautalangasta”
Seems my information was somewhat old. You will have to go through security even when connecting within T3.
Thus, follow the signs for T3 Flight Connectionsi f you have a BP for your onwards travel departing from T3.
Again, whether you're allowed to the CX lounge early before your departure is another issue.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 1:33 am
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Originally Posted by flymetoHEL
Seems my information was somewhat old.
When have arrivals come straight into the departure hall?
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 2:10 am
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Thankies for answers.

Also found finally some posta on BA forum and gather: it is technically possible to connect through transfers screening with onward BP, then exit behind AA lounge corners back to flight connections from where exit through immigration is possible but then entering later with same BP may raise issues that nobody has confirmed if preventing entry but several posts just claim to speak to an agent if there is issues with BP on re-entry.
So it seems possible but re-entry issues warned here and ther but nobody really confirming of denial or firsthand experience of running into problems.
YMMV...
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 2:27 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
Thankies for answers.

Also found finally some posta on BA forum and gather: it is technically possible to connect through transfers screening with onward BP, then exit behind AA lounge corners back to flight connections from where exit through immigration is possible but then entering later with same BP may raise issues that nobody has confirmed if preventing entry but several posts just claim to speak to an agent if there is issues with BP on re-entry.
So it seems possible but re-entry issues warned here and ther but nobody really confirming of denial or firsthand experience of running into problems.
YMMV...

Easy solution: buy two tickets for the return leg

Or go to check in to modify your reservation - change the seat or take a later/earlier flight... Would this help in the security issue of not using the same BP twice?

This will open up an option to have free breakfast + free drinks, London + expensive drinks, and free dinner + free drinks / jail within a day...

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Old Jan 16, 2019, 3:22 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
Thankies for answers.

Also found finally some posta on BA forum and gather: it is technically possible to connect through transfers screening with onward BP, then exit behind AA lounge corners back to flight connections from where exit through immigration is possible but then entering later with same BP may raise issues that nobody has confirmed if preventing entry but several posts just claim to speak to an agent if there is issues with BP on re-entry.
So it seems possible but re-entry issues warned here and ther but nobody really confirming of denial or firsthand experience of running into problems.
YMMV...
In general, some airports restrict 2nd usage of Fast Track with the same boarding pass (it has always been solved by explaining the re-entry). Normal security shouldn't be a problem at all, other than a confused agent (again - explaining that the re-entry is a real thing helps). Can't guarantee LHR is the same, but passing through transit security first and then landsite-to-airside security shouldn't be a problem. "I just changed my mind and went to see the city." - it's not like entering a country for 15 minutes on a visa-run or entering departures area without any intention to fly out (Singapore cases I've heard of). At LHR, I wouldn't expect any troubles with lounge dragons, either. Same-day re-entry is fine and not against OW rules. LHR lounges have, based on my knowledge, not been those which shape the rules to their taste.

Whether it's worth the hassle is another question. Don't you get access to the Plaza Premium Arrivals lounge (Priority Pass, DC etc.)? You might want to check in which terminal is that one located and which card grants you entry.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:28 am
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While I don't think I've ever entered LHR twice with the same BP, I have a very hard time believing it would actually lead to any major problems and certainly not up to the point where you would not be able to board your flight. "Oh, you know, after sitting in that lounge for two hours, with eight hours to go before my flight, I actually started to feel a bit bored. It's a wonderful lounge, but it's small, and at that point, a few hours in London started to sound so much more exciting, and it's only a quick train ride away, so why not, I thought. I never imagined it would be a problem..."
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 5:45 am
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Just got a PM from one guy who reported my idea works. Been there done that. Just a beep at the securitypoint. No questions asked, just agent letting through.
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