The Finnair höpö-höpö (nonsense) thread
Apr 2, 2018, 8:24 am
#2566
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This is almost höpöhöpö because the number of points you get is minimal. But Talouselämä claims https://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/u...b-24889a76ef77 that as of 1 March, there will be no AY+ points for alcohol purchases (inflight sales).
Apr 2, 2018, 10:42 am
#2567
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This is almost höpöhöpö because the number of points you get is minimal. But Talouselämä claims https://www.talouselama.fi/uutiset/u...b-24889a76ef77 that as of 1 March, there will be no AY+ points for alcohol purchases (inflight sales).
Apr 2, 2018, 10:52 am
#2568
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The law came into effect this year. But the posting of those points is so slow that I haven't received my February points yet, either... I did make a purchase in March, as well, so we'll see what happens.
Apr 3, 2018, 10:43 am
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Apr 5, 2018, 9:57 am
#2570
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AY's preferred partner HiFly is getting two A380s. They're ex-SQ birds and will retain their original seats. Hi Fly Is Getting Two A380s In The Coming Months (Featuring Suites)! - One Mile at a Time
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
Apr 5, 2018, 10:06 am
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AY's preferred partner HiFly is getting two A380s. They're ex-SQ birds and will retain their original seats. Hi Fly Is Getting Two A380s In The Coming Months (Featuring Suites)! - One Mile at a Time
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
Apr 5, 2018, 10:29 am
#2572
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AY's preferred partner HiFly is getting two A380s. They're ex-SQ birds and will retain their original seats. Hi Fly Is Getting Two A380s In The Coming Months (Featuring Suites)! - One Mile at a Time
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
Apr 5, 2018, 10:38 am
#2573
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Apr 5, 2018, 1:09 pm
#2574
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Apr 5, 2018, 1:20 pm
#2575
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I don't believe in BKK either, but OTOH, HiFly probably got those planes very very inexpensively, and they use a Portuguese crew, which probably is very inexpensive compared to a Finnish one. So I'm not so sure that a HiFly lease would cost more than two AY A350s.
Apr 5, 2018, 1:42 pm
#2576
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A 588 seater A380 burns approx 30% more fuel per seat km than a 315 seater A359
SQ has 441 seats and AY 336 (if we suppose they'll use a Marsuhäkki config) so that probably makes that number somewhere around 70-80%. Still a fair bit off from the more than double cost, and I assume one A380 has much lower sidecosts than 2 A359.
So what are the other factors pushing it to the 2x cost?
Last edited by intuition; Apr 5, 2018 at 1:48 pm
Apr 5, 2018, 2:00 pm
#2577
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Finnair A380 would really be something :-)
I don't think the idea is too crazy.
Don't remember the fuel consumption figures for A380, but HEL to most of Asian destinations should be in the ideal range for fuel effiency on A380. It would also be a statement from AY that they are playing in the big league. A380 is the top choice for Y-passenger comfort.
BKK had three daily during this high season right? And according to my experience the load factor should have been in the high 90's. So A380, why not!? :-P
I don't think the idea is too crazy.
Don't remember the fuel consumption figures for A380, but HEL to most of Asian destinations should be in the ideal range for fuel effiency on A380. It would also be a statement from AY that they are playing in the big league. A380 is the top choice for Y-passenger comfort.
BKK had three daily during this high season right? And according to my experience the load factor should have been in the high 90's. So A380, why not!? :-P
Apr 5, 2018, 4:38 pm
#2578
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AY's preferred partner HiFly is getting two A380s. They're ex-SQ birds and will retain their original seats. Hi Fly Is Getting Two A380s In The Coming Months (Featuring Suites)! - One Mile at a Time
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
The höpöhöpö part comes here: Would this be something for AY to consider as a seasonal lease for their high-demand summer routes? PVG?
Apr 5, 2018, 4:43 pm
#2579
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I believe it is. Haven't they completed the A380-compatible gate? 55 or something like that?
There have even been a few A380s at HEL. A diverted EK flight for instance.
There have even been a few A380s at HEL. A diverted EK flight for instance.