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Ahoy, mileage runners! (Incl. immediate turnarounds)

Old Jan 23, 19, 9:42 am
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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Ahoy, mileage runners! (Incl. immediate turnarounds)

Old Nov 19, 17, 12:54 pm
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Pier is a very nice lounge, but it is still a lounge. Hong Kong offers many, many excellent restaurants.
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Old Nov 19, 17, 1:13 pm
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Originally Posted by LoungeEnthusiast

But personally, I would never do a long-haul MR in Y. I value comfort way too much to do that.
Value means Y ticket yes but upgrade instruments can be used
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Old Nov 19, 17, 1:42 pm
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And of course I understand average Joe (tavallinen pulliainen as we call him in Finland) is not willing to MR every weekend to DEL and back, all of us don't live near airport and wife dont understand perverse called MR and so on. So when able, a-Joe must get points as much it's possible. So then 1550 to HKG is nice price.

Personally I would fly 3 times to DEL from BUD with that same price and get 3x points also. But I'm suffering incurable and difficult level of perverse.
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Old Nov 19, 17, 7:11 pm
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Could I get these 25.000miles for was it 430 euro WITHOUT flying? Including Y-meals somewhere near HEL? I would take it ((if it is not baltic herring)
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Old Nov 19, 17, 7:19 pm
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Originally Posted by niksal
Questions:
-Is this a good MR price?
-Is the Pier worth it?
-Any good ways, other than just eating and drinking in LKF, to spend the time in HKG?
For 1100e you can gey HEL-HKG-AKL which earns about 42000 points, if DEL or exEU doesnt interest you.

Pier F is free booze and food, which by definition wins any downtown restaurant hands down. Unfortunately their booze is not very "tinattava". Still it is very good lounge, imo worth of transiting there instead of any other place. Maybe they should invest in couple bottles of tasavalta or tapio.
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Old Nov 20, 17, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by ylefin
Could I get these 25.000miles for was it 430 euro WITHOUT flying? Including Y-meals somewhere near HEL? I would take it ((if it is not baltic herring)
Slightly off this one, since these points are not really status counting, but I just watched in boredom (read, not flying a while now) my Finnair App and saw that it is nicely collecting points anyhow. A longhaul upgrade just earned in a month without flying. 30000 pts transferred from K-Plussa, 10000 from AY Diners, 5000 from AY mastercard and some 5000 from small this and that Stockmann etc., summing up to about 50000. Check.
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Old Nov 20, 17, 2:08 pm
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What's this K-plussa thing? I mean transferring to AY?

CCs are good, non working wifi or IFE on the A359 or A333 is even better
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Old Nov 20, 17, 3:42 pm
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
What's this K-plussa thing? I mean transferring to AY?
I think he/she is K-plussa black (1 K points = 2 AY+ points)
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Old Nov 21, 17, 12:50 am
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I think K-Plussa has been commented here a couple of times as a sweet spot.
Black card has 6500€ min annual spend. 1000 plussa points gives a 5€ voucher, but instead can be trasnferred to 2 AY points. Do the math. For me it is no brainer to change 20000 K-plussa points worth 100€ in vouchers to 40000 AY points.
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Old Nov 21, 17, 12:54 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
I think K-Plussa has been commented here a couple of times as a sweet spot.
Black card has 6500 min annual spend. 1000 plussa points gives a 5 voucher, but instead can be trasnferred to 2 AY points. Do the math. For me it is no brainer to change 20000 K-plussa points worth 100 in vouchers to 40000 AY points.
That is one card I AM jealous of unfortunately they only count 6500 of actual K Store spend not partners so I havr zero chance for it
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Old Nov 21, 17, 2:08 am
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Because the Prisma near us has much better produce section than the opposite Citymarket, K-black is out of the question for me, but otherwise good deal. ^
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Old Nov 21, 17, 3:25 am
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Is that K-black card some kind of hidden benefit or is it a secret card?
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Old Nov 21, 17, 5:29 am
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Originally Posted by OH-LGG
Is that K-black card some kind of hidden benefit or is it a secret card?
Not hidden, but not widely advertised either:
https://www.plussa.com/Parhaat-asiak...PLUSSA-KORTTI-
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Old Nov 21, 17, 9:57 am
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I sure wish they included all purchases that accrue Plussa ppints, then I could swing it, but without it there just is ZERO incentive as our local K markets are NOT competitive in the least
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Old Nov 21, 17, 10:10 am
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Originally Posted by FFlash
I think K-Plussa has been commented here a couple of times as a sweet spot.
Black card has 6500 min annual spend. 1000 plussa points gives a 5 voucher, but instead can be trasnferred to 2 AY points. Do the math. For me it is no brainer to change 20000 K-plussa points worth 100 in vouchers to 40000 AY points.
Having green S-card and black AY-Diners every euro counts for 3 AY points and 5% cashback from S-purchases (need hereabout 900 monthly purchases for that). I have done my math and even calculus .
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