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Old Jan 23, 19, 9:42 am
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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Ahoy, mileage runners! (Incl. immediate turnarounds)

Old Jan 28, 23, 7:24 am
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Originally Posted by ffay005
Yes. The inbound flight is well-padded and frequently seems to land early. Even if it didn't, you will have plenty of time. However, you would need to get the BP at HEL. Shouldn't be an issue. (OLCI ex-DXB is not possible. Don't know about transfer desks.)
I am only afraid of the arabian fluid and fast immigration desks, if there is no transit option.
Actually, I have been often in DXB, but never looked for this option.
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Old Jan 28, 23, 9:18 am
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Originally Posted by Carotthat
if there is no transit option.
DXB T1 does have a transfer desk for connections on separate tickets, so you don't need to clear immigration. The remaining risk on a direct turnaround is that if the inbound flight is delayed, AY transfer desk might be already closed once you get there.
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Old Feb 16, 23, 9:33 pm
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I saw the red signs now, even available after taking the train from arrival gates.
Is the transfer desk really necessary?
Do the transfer signs lead into the general departure area?
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Old Feb 17, 23, 12:05 am
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Originally Posted by Carotthat
Is the transfer desk really necessary?
Do the transfer signs lead into the general departure area?
You would avoid going through immigration (twice, for entry and exit) by going through the transfer desk.

The transfer signs lead to the transfer desk area, after which there is transfer security before getting back to the train taking you to the general departure area.
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Old Feb 17, 23, 12:20 am
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Originally Posted by r2d2
You would avoid going through immigration (twice, for entry and exit) by going through the transfer desk.

The transfer signs lead to the transfer desk area, after which there is transfer security before getting back to the train taking you to the general departure area.
Misunderstanding...
Do I have to see a transfer desk agent before passing security?
I should have my BP already for sure.
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Old Feb 17, 23, 12:21 am
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Originally Posted by r2d2
You would avoid going through immigration (twice, for entry and exit) by going through the transfer desk.

The transfer signs lead to the transfer desk area, after which there is transfer security before getting back to the train taking you to the general departure area.
Misunderstanding...
Do I have to see a transfer desk agent before passing security?
I should have my BP already for sure.
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Old Feb 17, 23, 12:32 am
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Originally Posted by Carotthat
Do I have to see a transfer desk agent before passing security?
I should have my BP already for sure.
If you can get your BP already from HEL, you should be able to pass security with that BP.
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Old Apr 28, 23, 4:20 am
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Are there any risky examples of RIX lately? My experience has been that you arrive by walking to the terminal and it also boards via walking, so there would not be an issue with just turning around at the gate. Have there been any recent disembarkations/boardings by bus?

At least today the rest of the flights seem to leave from B9 and B17 which you (I believe) board by walking?
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Old Apr 28, 23, 1:27 pm
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This week B17 was bus. I believe only 9-10 areas are walkable
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Old Apr 29, 23, 1:48 am
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Thanks a lot, will have to decide which flight to take when the gates have been assigned
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Old Apr 29, 23, 2:22 am
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Last night the last TLL flight was ATR and we had a bus gate.
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Old May 8, 23, 1:29 am
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Had several TLL flights arrive and leave at bus gate recently, yet every gate incl. gate 2 are empty cost cutting?
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Old May 8, 23, 2:05 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Had several TLL flights arrive and leave at bus gate recently, yet every gate incl. gate 2 are empty cost cutting?
at one point pre-pandemic it was the norm to have bus when departing and at arrival a long walk to the terminal as the plane parked at the northwest corner of the airport, super annoying and really s*cked when raining.
Gate 2 as the norm has been great since it is the closest gate from the lounge and arrivals, very sad if it has come to an end.
I will be flying on wednesday morning TLL-HEL on ay1012 but that seems to be E190 as the norm at the moment so I am guessing no bus.
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Old May 8, 23, 2:48 am
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Yeh, we had stand 3, in the northwest corner, but no walking to/from the terminal

Last night, the midnight E190 arrival also was parked somewhere else and involved a bus transfer.

Some VIPs were onboard as well, who then had to share the same bus as everybody else.
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Old May 8, 23, 4:24 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Had several TLL flights arrive and leave at bus gate recently, yet every gate incl. gate 2 are empty cost cutting?
A thought just came to me, it has been all over the news here that ryanair has cancelled a lot of flights from TLL because of Tallinn Airport radically increasing airport fees for airlines, something like a 30% increase, maybe AY indeed are trying to cut costs due to increase in fees.
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