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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)
TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)
Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:
ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)
Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:
DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)
TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)
Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:
ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)
Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:
DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
Ahoy, mileage runners! (Incl. immediate turnarounds)
#2266
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,105
#2267
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Going around Russian airspace
Posts: 621
#2268
Moderator, Finnair
Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: Eurobonus Diamond, QR Gold, AY+ Platinum, A3*G, Nordic Choice Lifetime Platinum, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 14,172
Good to know. Henceforth I'll ignore any mono-lingual sign. I will have my total freedom in Kexholm et.al
#2270
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
#2271
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,957
Now a days I tend to go for J tickets over value due to time issues, then again with how often AY has cancelled my tickets I suppose I should just go with X tickets now and I 😀😀😀
#2272
Join Date: Nov 2019
Programs: AY+
Posts: 188
The downside is that both the eco classic and biz classic fares are not refundable for a fee. A little while ago booked a refundable JFK trip ex-LED for around 250,- in eco classic.
There's still a myriad of uncertainty and that's the reason I'm trying to refrain from booking. Otherwise would book CDG-SFO-LAX-HEL-CDG. Sad times.
#2273
Join Date: May 2013
Location: west coast best coast
Programs: TINDER GOLD, STARBUCKS GOLD, COSTCO EXECUTIVE!!
Posts: 3,989
An update on the cheap J zombie fares to Asia (Germany/Italy to Hong Kong/China) from last year: when my flights were canceled, the agent revalidated instead of reissue the ticket. With revalidations, the date of issue doesn't change. So despite being booked for the future, the ticket expired past its 12 month validity. Without me knowing, because I assumed the ticket validity had been refreshed. And then when the flights eventually got cancelled, Finnair could not reissue it for new flights and insisted only on refunding. That was.. frustrating.
#2274
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Seat 1L these days :)
Programs: AF Platinum/AY LUMO/SK EBG/baEC S/HYATT Globalist/MR LTP/A3 *G/HH Dia/IHG plat
Posts: 7,957
An update on the cheap J zombie fares to Asia (Germany/Italy to Hong Kong/China) from last year: when my flights were canceled, the agent revalidated instead of reissue the ticket. With revalidations, the date of issue doesn't change. So despite being booked for the future, the ticket expired past its 12 month validity. Without me knowing, because I assumed the ticket validity had been refreshed. And then when the flights eventually got cancelled, Finnair could not reissue it for new flights and insisted only on refunding. That was.. frustrating.
With for instance ORD flights going out near empty I find it rather odd that they cannot make any sort of compromise, not even to keep a customer buying tickets and aiming for LUMO which right now is a futile status anyways 😂😂
Very little flexibility when THEY are the ones cancelling the flights (16th time so far)
But these are not life altering issues, I can certainly fly with ba, was, or even JL or CX no problem 😂
#2275
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
For segment idiots: (scheduled flights AY1887/AY1888)
https://www.apollomatkat.fi/matkatarjoukset/akkilahdot
https://www.apollomatkat.fi/matkatarjoukset/akkilahdot
#2276
Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 213
For segment idiots: (scheduled flights AY1887/AY1888)
https://www.apollomatkat.fi/matkatarjoukset/akkilahdot
https://www.apollomatkat.fi/matkatarjoukset/akkilahdot
#2277
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Helsinki-Vantaa APT, Finland
Programs: AY LUMO
Posts: 6,055
For segment höpöhöpö's, RIX return is now 58€ and BER 88€
https://www.finnair.com/fi-fi/lentotarjoukset
https://www.finnair.com/fi-fi/lentotarjoukset
#2278
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
Turnaround at IVL - Possible during Covid era?
I am planning a trip to Europe and want to fly a few same-day turnaround flights on these domestic Finnair flights.
I wonder if Covid-19 has changed the departure and arrival experiences on these domestic Finland flights especially into Lapland, like RVN or IVO.
Will there be another Covid vaccination check on arrival in IVL or RVN or even Oulu?
I am tempted to do an A321 turnaround flight from HEL to Ivalo to Kittila to HEL flight! I looked at youtube video and Ivala airport looks pretty compact.
If I complete online check-in, will I be able to make the return flight with the short 35 minutes ground time at Ivalo?
Any advice will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Carfield
I wonder if Covid-19 has changed the departure and arrival experiences on these domestic Finland flights especially into Lapland, like RVN or IVO.
Will there be another Covid vaccination check on arrival in IVL or RVN or even Oulu?
I am tempted to do an A321 turnaround flight from HEL to Ivalo to Kittila to HEL flight! I looked at youtube video and Ivala airport looks pretty compact.
If I complete online check-in, will I be able to make the return flight with the short 35 minutes ground time at Ivalo?
Any advice will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Carfield
#2279
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Join Date: Jan 2014
Posts: 2,685
I am planning a trip to Europe and want to fly a few same-day turnaround flights on these domestic Finnair flights.
I wonder if Covid-19 has changed the departure and arrival experiences on these domestic Finland flights especially into Lapland, like RVN or IVO.
Will there be another Covid vaccination check on arrival in IVL or RVN or even Oulu?
I am tempted to do an A321 turnaround flight from HEL to Ivalo to Kittila to HEL flight! I looked at youtube video and Ivala airport looks pretty compact.
If I complete online check-in, will I be able to make the return flight with the short 35 minutes ground time at Ivalo?
Any advice will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Carfield
I wonder if Covid-19 has changed the departure and arrival experiences on these domestic Finland flights especially into Lapland, like RVN or IVO.
Will there be another Covid vaccination check on arrival in IVL or RVN or even Oulu?
I am tempted to do an A321 turnaround flight from HEL to Ivalo to Kittila to HEL flight! I looked at youtube video and Ivala airport looks pretty compact.
If I complete online check-in, will I be able to make the return flight with the short 35 minutes ground time at Ivalo?
Any advice will be appreciated!
Thanks,
Carfield
Maybe if the government introduces a vaccination passport (earliest October) you may have to prove vaccination status somewhere, but right now that is all speculation.
#2280
Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: New York
Posts: 7,347
No COVID document checks on domestic flights (at least last month). Only in HEL when transferring from risk country -> domestic. Never personally saw the point of these domestic point runs (given how few points you get vs. Europe) but I don't see any reason why you couldn't make it back on the same plane, you disembark straight to the gate area.
Maybe if the government introduces a vaccination passport (earliest October) you may have to prove vaccination status somewhere, but right now that is all speculation.
Maybe if the government introduces a vaccination passport (earliest October) you may have to prove vaccination status somewhere, but right now that is all speculation.
Thanks for your advice!
Carfield