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Old Jan 23, 2019, 9:42 am
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Safe - Immediate turnaround is easy, i.e. according to experience it is possible to reach departure gate quickly and without extra security check when doing same plane turnaround.
Intermediate - Immediate turnaround is doable, but requires e.g. extra security check.
Risky - Immediate turnaround not recommended. (See notes.)

TO KEEP THE WIKI AS COHERENT AS POSSIBLE, PLEASE USE "SAFE", "INTERMEDIATE" OR "RISKY" APPROPRIATELY! (I.e. no "Safe" for stations that require any kind of security or transfer check, not to mention going landside, etc.)

Immediate turnaround information for European AY destinations:

ACE: ?
AGP: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.) Details here from August 2022
ALC: Intermediate, Arrivals pour from jetbridge to "funnel pathway" which takes people to baggage claim, but one can look for "Transfer" signage and take escalator up to the gate area. No checkpoints.
AMS: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
ARN: Safe / Intermediate (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate, except gate 62 arrival pours to baggage claim. ATR flights may be riskier if one ends up with a bus gate.)
ATH: Intermediate at best
AYT: ?
BCN: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
BER: ?
BGO: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BLL: ?
BMA: Safe (Transfer door is before going to the terminal exit and boarding will not start before the incoming plane is empty.)
BRU: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
BUD: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CDG: ?
CFU: ?
CHQ: Risky (To landside first and security needed. Long lines possibile.)
CPH: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
CTA: ?
DBV: ?
DUB: ?
DUS: ?
EDI: ? (Security check required for sure.)
FCO: Intermediate / Risky. Bus transportation can cause long walks.
FNC: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight. Mobile BP not available, obtain a BP from HEL.)
FRA: Safe (Even with the bus from stand you can make it.)
FUE: ?
GDN: Risky (Providing it is ATR by Norra, apron position, walking / bussing to the arrivals, queue security (can be very long), sprint upstairs to the gate.)
GOT: Safe / Intermediate(At least on tube arrival, after exit from the tube to the terminal area, turn around and you are at the departure gate. No info on possible bus gates though.)
GVA: ?
GZP: ?
HAJ: Safe (Arrival at departure gate)
HAM: ?
HER: ?
IBZ: ?
INN: Intermediate / Risky (To landside first and then security. No airside transit.)
IVL: Safe, arrivals pour into the gate area.
JOE: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
JSI: ?
JTR: ?
JYV: ?
KAJ: ?
KAO: ?
KEF: ?
KEM: ?
KGS: ?
KOK: ?
KRK: Intermediate (AY rarely has a jetty position so bus, arrivals then go upstairs to departures for security, there is a fast track for OW elites - not well signposted - separate B/Pass scanner to the left)
KTT: ?
KUO: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
LHR: Intermediate (Need to go via Flight Connections to reclear security, which may take time depending on the time of the day.)
LIS: ?
LIN: Safe, arrivals pour into departures.
LJU: ?
LPA: ?
LYS: ?
MAD: No direct turnarounds due to operated by IB.
MAH: ?
MAN: Intermediate/Risky, requires reclearing security.
MHQ: ?
MSQ: ?
MUC: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
MXP: Intermediate / Risky (Arrivals come into a different floor, transfer requires walking through a transfer point and distances are quite long.)
NAP: ?
NCE: ?
OSL: Safe / Intermediate (D gates pours directly to departures. E gates also pours to departure gate, follow transit arrow, automatic gate door will open during "normal" hours. IF door doesn't open go upstairs try the transfer security. Very rare reports of stand arrival with bus to exit, but should still be doable, security is usually fast and short distances.)
OUL: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
PFO: ?
PMI: ?
PRG: Safe (From arrivals walk up to departures to departure gate.)
PVK: ?
RHO: Risky (Arrivals pour to baggage claim, security check usually has long lines before you get to the departure hall.)
RIX: Risky. After deplaning, you walk to the terminal, but boarding is done with buses. My flight was delayed, and they started boarding before the plane was even there.
RMI: ?
RVN: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
SPU: ?
SZG: ?
TAY: ?
TFS: ?
TLL: Risky (May have a remote stand arrival, when departing flight has been boarded into a bus with boarding gate already closed.)
TLV: ?
TOS: ?
UME: ?
VAA: Intermediate (Exit via baggage claim and reclear security, but should be doable if you exit among the first from the inbound flight.)
VBY: ?
VCE: ?
VIE: Safe (Arrivals pour directly to departure gate.)
VNO: Risky. (Departing pax board bus when arriving pax still deplaning. Connection corridor available but not sure how straightforward it is).
VRN: ?
WAW: Safe (Arrivals pour to departure gate.)
ZRH: Safe (When exiting the bridge, you are under the gates and there are inclined speedwalks that bring back to the gates upstairs.)

Immediate turnaround information for selected longhaul AY destinations:

DEL: Intermediate (There's plenty of time for the obligatory visit to the transit desk and security. However, you'll need a self-printed visa confirmation to show the gate agent at HEL.)
DOH: ?
DXB: Intermediate (Follow "connections" to security downstairs and after that go to transfer desk if needed.)
JFK: Intermediate (Generous time with the new schedule, but you'll need to clear US immigration so ESTA or visa is needed.)
NRT: Intermediate (OLCI and mobile BP works, no need to go landside. There's transfer security, though.)
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Old Apr 5, 2019, 4:43 am
  #1741  
 
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Originally Posted by np1
My most recent arn-hel-USA flight few weeks ago went well and those few SSSS (all the way from ARN) got their extra attention at the gate at HEL.
I´m just wondering if one can get boarding pass for ARN-HEL leg at HEL or do online checkin for ARN-HEL if one gets SSSSed. If one needs to get boarding pass from checkin desk at ARN, same aircraft turnaround is problematic.
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Old Apr 5, 2019, 6:57 am
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Originally Posted by miikkak
I´m just wondering if one can get boarding pass for ARN-HEL leg at HEL or do online checkin for ARN-HEL if one gets SSSSed. If one needs to get boarding pass from checkin desk at ARN, same aircraft turnaround is problematic.
Absolutely. The quad only means an extra check before boarding the leg that leads to the US.
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Old Apr 5, 2019, 10:44 am
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Indeed I've also been SSSS'd in e.g. TLL and that got no extra attention there.
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 12:00 am
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I'm just thinking out loud, my segment running has luckily settled a bit so not hopefully renewing plat by segments. But, would end up in the 60k area pointwise with do drastic changes to flying patterns. So, what one could do, because in the F&F pool there would be likely some 250k-300k points available in total. Is there any viable options to fill the 90k gap between accrued points and plat threshold? How many points one need to fly for plat, rest being subject to award<-> tier conversion?
Since DL is next year Jan, now many options are still open but realisticly I could only invest one weekend and some k€.
And having too little free time, are there any reasonable LH J MR options that could be performed in a weekend or a long-one?
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 12:29 am
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Originally Posted by Post Scriptum
But, would end up in the 60k area pointwise with do drastic changes to flying patterns. So, what one could do, because in the F&F pool there would be likely some 250k-300k points available in total. Is there any viable options to fill the 90k gap between accrued points and plat threshold? How many points one need to fly for plat, rest being subject to award<-> tier conversion?
You can get up to 50% of the required tier points by exchanging award points. So you can exchange up to 225k award points to get up to 75k tier points.

That means you need still at least 15k tier points by flying, everything above will reduce the amount of award points to convert.
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 1:05 pm
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Can you actually skip from Silver to Platinum if you have 75,000-79,999 tier points? I vaguely recall some rule that you cannot actually do that somehow but need at minimum 80,000 tier points.
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 1:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
Can you actually skip from Silver to Platinum if you have 75,000-79,999 tier points?
Even if it would be possible, it wouldn't be a smart move, as then you wouldn't get the Gold vouchers.
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 1:40 pm
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Originally Posted by r2d2
Even if it would be possible, it wouldn't be a smart move, as then you wouldn't get the Gold vouchers.
But you don’t get those Gold vouchers at 80k if you are renewing your Plat.
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Old Apr 6, 2019, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by r2d2
Even if it would be possible, it wouldn't be a smart move, as then you wouldn't get the Gold vouchers.
Then just go from 74 kTP to 149 kTP instead of 75 kTP to 150 kTP, and claim the last 1000 points by taking a flight after you have used your gold vouchers.
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Old Apr 7, 2019, 1:24 pm
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Are there risks of getting a bus or other hassle at VIE for direct turnaround? Wiki says it is safe, directly to gate. But I just wonder about IF (bus to terminal or other).
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Old Apr 8, 2019, 10:38 am
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Fron Stockholm to SFO starting 215:

https://www.lentodiilit.fi/2019/04/0...oon-215-euroa/
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Old Apr 9, 2019, 1:48 pm
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BMA transfer door on the corner of the terminal building.

It would seem there is just a BP scanner inside, no security but I hadn't time to check it out.
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Old Apr 9, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Yes, there is no security as the transfer gate leads you directly to the departure area. Easy same plane turnarounds at BMA.
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Old May 12, 2019, 11:50 am
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Segment run... Risky? Crazy? Total €1020,55, 16 segments, €63,78 per segment, 20000 tier points.
10.6.2019 KUO-ARN AY376-AY801 06:00-07:55 €162,40 value
10.6.2019 ARN-TLL AY802-AY1015 08:30-12:25 €94,91 value
10.6.2019 TLL-ARN AY1024-AY819 17:25-20:25 €89,61 value
10.6.2019 ARN-KUO AY820-AY379 21:05-00:40 €123,09 value
13.6.2019 KUO-ARN AY380-AY803 09:15-12:20 €134,18 value
13.6.2019 ARN-TLL AY804-AY1023 13:15-17:00 €186,59 value
13.6.2019 TLL-ARN AY1018-AY819 18:20-20:25 €82,18 value
13.6.2019 ARN-KUO AY820-AY379 21:05-00:40 €147,59 value

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Old May 12, 2019, 12:28 pm
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Originally Posted by TTL
Segment run... Risky? Crazy? Total €1020,55, 16 segments, €63,78 per segment, 20000 tier points.
Doesn't seem too risky imo. Crazy? Maybe crazy expensive. Do you need both segments and tier points?
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