Old Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old May 15, 2019, 12:54 pm
  #1156  
 
Join Date: May 2019
Posts: 11
Originally Posted by ffay005
No, it means €50 for a plastic wrapped sandwich.

And yes, no additional points.
Tempting!
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Old May 16, 2019, 2:26 am
  #1157  
 
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Originally Posted by ffay005
No, it means €50 for a plastic wrapped sandwich.

And yes, no additional points.
I have sent the following e-mail to BA and received full tier points:

"I originally bought an economy ticket to flight AY 21 from Helsinki to Delhi on 07APR2015. I bought an upgrade to business class later. I was awarded only 35 tier points instead of 140 I should have gotten for a business class ticket. Finnair terms and conditions stated that only Finnair Plus points would be awarded according to the original booking class. As a member of Executive club and not Finnair Plus, I should receive business class tier points."
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Old May 16, 2019, 2:44 am
  #1158  
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Originally Posted by Lauri_fly
I have sent the following e-mail to BA and received full tier points:

"I originally bought an economy ticket to flight AY 21 from Helsinki to Delhi on 07APR2015. I bought an upgrade to business class later. I was awarded only 35 tier points instead of 140 I should have gotten for a business class ticket. Finnair terms and conditions stated that only Finnair Plus points would be awarded according to the original booking class. As a member of Executive club and not Finnair Plus, I should receive business class tier points."
Upgraded flights on AY do not earn more BAEC Tier Points.
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Old May 16, 2019, 2:50 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Upgraded flights on AY do not earn more BAEC Tier Points.
I got 140 tier points for upgraded AY flight.
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Old May 16, 2019, 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by Lauri_fly
I got 140 tier points for upgraded AY flight.
Then you got lucky
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Old May 16, 2019, 3:28 am
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Originally Posted by florens
Then you got lucky
I agree. And if anyone else wants to get lucky too, sending an e-mail might help. I know it should earn 35 TP, but there might be a loophole.
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Old May 16, 2019, 4:06 am
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I'm not sure I want BA to look too closely at my previously awarded TPs really.
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Old May 20, 2019, 1:32 pm
  #1163  
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Plat (OWE)
Posts: 493
Itinerary: TXL-HEL
Fee: 50€
Ticket type: Value
Tier: AY Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 2 weeks
Conveyance: email

Yes, maybe.. No...Yes, maybe... No thank you, will keep my GetJet exit seat.
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Old May 20, 2019, 2:00 pm
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Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: Finnair (AY) Platinum, Air France Silver, Tallink Club One Silver :)
Posts: 1,655
Itinerary: HEL-FRA
Fee: 190€
Ticket type: Value
Tier: AY Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 1 week
Conveyance: e-mail

Even if I wouldn't get almost all the J benefits flying in Y as Plat, 190€ on an Embraer would be a bit of a steep ask for a one way upgrade in my opinion... Don't really understand the pricing logic here. If they sell the upgrade to/from TXL for around 50€, why would someone pay almost 4 times as much for a FRA upgrade. I understand that it is less of a leisure destination, but still. So long story short, I'm also keeping my exit row seat.
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Old May 24, 2019, 8:53 am
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: BA Gold, TP Silver
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Itinerary: CPH-HEL
Fee: 110€
Ticket type: Value
Tier: OWE
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
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Old May 24, 2019, 1:23 pm
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Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Helsinki
Programs: AY+ Platinum, IHG Diamond, Marriott Rewards Gold
Posts: 29
Itinerary: MXP-HEL
Fee: 160€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: Platinum
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
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Old May 26, 2019, 2:02 am
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Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Gold (OWS)
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Itinerary: AMS-HEL
Fee: 100€
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Gold
Validity: ? hours
Advance: 3 days
Conveyance: App + push notification
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Old May 27, 2019, 12:16 am
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Itinerary: HEL-BUD
Fee: 110€
Ticket type: Value
Tier: Plat
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 8 days
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Old May 27, 2019, 5:47 am
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Join Date: May 2019
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Itinerary: HEL-LHR
Fee: 180€
Ticket type: Normal
Tier: BA Silver
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
Taken? Not a chance
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Old May 30, 2019, 11:24 pm
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Plat Lumo, SK Gold
Posts: 948
Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Fee: 60€
Ticket type: Light
Tier: No FF number entered
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
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