Old Mar 12, 2015, 4:34 pm
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Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.

Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.

Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").

Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.

Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.

Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).

If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.


Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.

The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.




Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.

Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€

JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499

HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348

BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348

NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)

ICN-HEL 248, 318

HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498

CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248

HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)

YYZ-HEL 225€, 225


Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99

HEL-VNO 7k points

HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69

HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€

CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69

HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€

HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points

HEL-VIE 69€

HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€

HEL-MXP 69

HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69

HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69

HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€

BRU-HEL 69

GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89

HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€

HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points

HEL-SVO 69€

HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€

DUS-HEL 69€

HEL-OSL 42€

HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
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Old Feb 1, 2018, 11:36 am
  #751  
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: aal
Programs: Finnair plat
Posts: 110
Itinerary: CPH-HEL
Fee: 101 €
Flyer tier: Plat
Ticket type: Value
Validity: 36h
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: e-mail

E-190 :-)
Still looking for my first upgrade with Finnair.....
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Old Feb 2, 2018, 11:16 am
  #752  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
Posts: 5,752
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 88 €
Flyer tier: Gold
Ticket type: Value
Validity: 36h
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: e-mail
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Old Feb 2, 2018, 12:27 pm
  #753  
 
Join Date: Jan 2016
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Originally Posted by remymartin
Any more AY Golds to be giften?
Originally Posted by remymartin
Flyer tier: Gold
You got Gold today and this upgrade offer is how AY welcomes you?
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Old Feb 2, 2018, 7:03 pm
  #754  
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: HEL
Programs: SPG LTP, hotels, OWE, STE+, *G, Octopus
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Originally Posted by jmmi
You got Gold today and this upgrade offer is how AY welcomes you?
No, I'm trying to welcome someone else
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 9:24 am
  #755  
 
Join Date: May 2017
Programs: AY Plat (OWE), TK Elite (*G), BT VIP, HH D, BW DS
Posts: 484
Itinerary: VIE-HEL
Fee: 98 €
Flyer tier: Platinum
Ticket type: Basic
Validity: 36h
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: e-mail

E90, no thanks.
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 10:36 am
  #756  
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Posts: 245
Itinerary: HEL-DEL
Fee: 48 000 AY+ points
Flyer tier: AY+ Gold
Ticket type: Z
Validity: until 8 hours prior to depature
Advance: immediately after check-in
Conveyance: SMS

Last edited by manywhere; Feb 6, 2018 at 12:19 pm
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 1:26 pm
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Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,615
Surprisingly, no 9,000 points SMS offer for BRU-HEL. And the Airbus had 6 row of business class for only one customer.

I hope this was but a temporary issue such as catering?
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 2:00 pm
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Join Date: Jan 2012
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Posts: 5,752
Originally Posted by manywhere
Itinerary: HEL-DEL
Fee: 48 000 AY+ points
Flyer tier: AY+ Gold
Ticket type: Light
I assume this is a typo? No Light on m/h and l/h, right?
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Old Feb 5, 2018, 3:25 pm
  #759  
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: HEL
Programs: AY Platinum, TK Elite, AA, BA, SK, DL, NT, WB + hotels
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Originally Posted by remymartin
I assume this is a typo? No Light on m/h and l/h, right?
Light SH, basic LH, the only difference being you can take a bag on LH.
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 5:18 am
  #760  
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 2,911
Itinerary: MUC-HEL
Fee: 163 €
Flyer tier: Platinum
Ticket type: Value
Validity: 36h
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: e-mail

Originally Posted by ffay005
Light SH, basic LH, the only difference being you can take a bag on LH.
Basic still exists on SH. You just cannot book it on AY's site. Our tickets book by default always in Basic, no matter if it is SH or LH.
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 6:42 am
  #761  
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Originally Posted by manywhere
Itinerary: HEL-DEL
Fee: 48 000 AY+ points
and that's only 2'000 miles less than the standard upgrade rate?
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 6:47 am
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Originally Posted by Cupart
and that's only 2'000 miles less than the standard upgrade rate?
Exclusive 4% discount for tier members
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
Basic still exists on SH. You just cannot book it on AY's site. Our tickets book by default always in Basic, no matter if it is SH or LH.
Basic still exists on SH and you can still book it on AY, although it is not marketed as such. If you add the checked-in bag fee to Light during the ticket purchase, you get Basic, as evidenced by the fare basis.

In all likelihood, long-haul will be the same sooner rather than later, with Norwegian going long-haul. Maybe during the upcoming amazing Finnair Plus enhancements!
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by Courmisch
Basic still exists on SH and you can still book it on AY, although it is not marketed as such. If you add the checked-in bag fee to Light during the ticket purchase, you get Basic, as evidenced by the fare basis.
Good to know, but then the price difference between Basic and Value is even more negligible for me than I thought: 3€/direction. I somehow assumed it would be a little bit more, like 10€.
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Old Feb 6, 2018, 12:18 pm
  #765  
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
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Originally Posted by Jainzar
Basic still exists on SH. You just cannot book it on AY's site. Our tickets book by default always in Basic, no matter if it is SH or LH.
It might have been basic actually, or booking class Z. I remember looking at my booking on AY website and wondering "what the ???? a light booking? how on earth??" It was booked my company's CWT agency who booked it, so that already explains it.

Originally Posted by Cupart
and that's only 2'000 miles less than the standard upgrade rate?
Yup and that's how AY shows that they love me. Biz class was very empty on that trip. Made me think that I should really focus on getting that Plat in my hat. The sauna in the lounge was very nice though. Best electric sauna I've been in for a while.
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