Mar 12, 2015, 3:34 pm
Last edit by: Marschel
Background
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
From time to time, AY will make the Y traveller an offer to upgrade. This thread lists when, how and and how much the upgrade is.
Selection process is unknown, but it is likely that neither fare class on original ticket nor tier status of traveller is a selection criteria, at least not to travellers advantage. From the reports made so far, both travellers with and without FF# in the reservation have gotten offers.
Offers are likely made only when Y is oversold or nearly full. Some travellers have reported declining offer and being upgraded for free later ("op-up").
Offers are fixed price offers, either in € or in AY+points. The latter kind is only valid for members of AY+, while €-offers are directed to all kind of travellers.
Offers are made either in mail or via text message and recipient has 72 hours to repspond. Some reports says this time is now shortened to 48 hours. Text message offers typically arrive close to departure and may not state a last time to reply.
Offers in text message can be replied to and upgrade is instantly processed. Offers in mail has occasionally not cleared (said to be "sold out" when accepting offer too late).
If offer is accepted and upgrade clears, new ticket is issued in F, so a confirmed upgrade with all perks of business class included. Mileage earning is according to original fare class however.
Development
In august 2015 AY announced a trial to let travellers bid for upgrades, initially on AY89 and AY90. It is likely that bidding will affect the number of fixed price offers.
The trial has been made permanent, and the bidding for upgrade has been extended to more longhaul routes.
The program has also led to a consolidation of upgrade options to one webpage
https://www.finnair.com/int/gb/upgrade-options
where you can upgrade by bidding, by using AY+ points or by accepting last minute cash offers. The latter ("Last minute" offers) are the same as have been discussed in this thread.. Finnair still pushes those offers via e-mail and text-message, but now also shows them on this webpage.
Offers made
Here is a condensed list of offers made, processed including post #213.
Figures are in € unless otherwise stated. Each destination's offers are recorded in a single line in time order.
Longhaul
SIN-HEL 248, 348, 348
HEL-SIN 499, 499, 348, 349€
JFK-HEL 48k points, 348€, 348€, 499
HKG-HEL 248
HEL-HKG 348
BKK-HEL 298, 348, 348
HEL-BKK 48k points, 348€, 348€ (290€ on phone? Not yet confirmed)
HEL-HKT 348
NRT-HEL 498
HEL-KIX 348, 375 (12/19, 01/20)
KIX-HEL 391 (12/19, 01/20)
ICN-HEL 248, 318
HEL-PVG 298
PVG-HEL 448, 498
CKG-HEL 228
XIY-HEL 248
HEL-DEL 198
HEL-DEL 300 (4/19)
YYZ-HEL 225€, 225
Shorthaul
DXB-HEL 99
HEL-VNO 7k points
HEL-BUD 69€
BUD-HEL 69, 8k points, 69
HEL-PRG 69€
PRG-HEL ≈70€
CPH-HEL 7k points, 7k, 69€, 7k, 69€
HEL-CPH 69€, 69, 69
HEL-ARN 7,5k points, 41€
HEL-GOT 7k points
GOT-HEL 7k points
HEL-VIE 69€
HEL-CDG 69€, 69€, 69
CDG-HEL 89€
HEL-MXP 69
HEL-TXL 9k points, 9k
HEL-DUS 69
HEL-HAM 69,69
HAM-HEL 69
HEL-FRA 69€
FRA-HEL 69€, 89, 89€
BRU-HEL 69
GVA-HEL 69
HEL-GVA 69, 89
HEL-LHR 9k points
HEL-LHR 109€
HEL-MAD 89€, 9k points
HEL-SVO 69€
HEL-WAW 79€
WAW-HEL 79€
DUS-HEL 69€
HEL-OSL 42€
HEL-MUC 90 (01/20)
MUC-HEL 115€ (01/20)
Please post your upgrade offers
Nov 14, 2017, 8:42 am
#706
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Fee: 65€
Flyer tier: AY+Plat
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 63€
Flyer tier: AY+Plat
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email
Clearly, AY knows I am poorer than ffay005
Fee: 65€
Flyer tier: AY+Plat
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 63€
Flyer tier: AY+Plat
Ticket type: Light
Validity: 36 hours
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: email
Clearly, AY knows I am poorer than ffay005
Nov 19, 2017, 12:05 am
#709
Join Date: Nov 2005
Programs: BA Gold, TP Silver
Posts: 888
Itinerary: HEL-ARN
Fee: 72€
Flyer tier: OWE (BA)
Ticket type: Light (W)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: Email
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 78€
Flyer tier: OWE (BA)
Ticket type: Light (W)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: Email
Fee: 72€
Flyer tier: OWE (BA)
Ticket type: Light (W)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 10 days
Conveyance: Email
Itinerary: ARN-HEL
Fee: 78€
Flyer tier: OWE (BA)
Ticket type: Light (W)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 15 days
Conveyance: Email
Dec 14, 2017, 6:50 am
#714
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: AMS
Programs: KL PFL; BA Gold; A3 Silver; EY Silver; SU Silver
Posts: 2,488
December 2017:
MOW-HEL EUR 180 (Basic; Q)
HEL-CPH EUR 100 (Basic; Q)
I am BA Emerald.
Rejected. Funny also that the delayed HEL-CPH did not have food at all in both classes
Same price quoted for return 2 days later (Basic; V).
MOW-HEL EUR 180 (Basic; Q)
HEL-CPH EUR 100 (Basic; Q)
I am BA Emerald.
Rejected. Funny also that the delayed HEL-CPH did not have food at all in both classes
Same price quoted for return 2 days later (Basic; V).
Dec 22, 2017, 8:16 am
#715
Join Date: May 2014
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+Plat, ALL Plat, Scandic L2
Posts: 3,620
Itinerary: HEL-CDG
Fee: 9000 points
Flyer tier: Plat/OWE
Fare basis: RVA2FI
Validity: 16 hours
Advance: 24 hours
Conveyance: SMS
(Yes, I managed to get an R fare for December 23. Bought the ticket in early March.)
Fee: 9000 points
Flyer tier: Plat/OWE
Fare basis: RVA2FI
Validity: 16 hours
Advance: 24 hours
Conveyance: SMS
(Yes, I managed to get an R fare for December 23. Bought the ticket in early March.)
Dec 27, 2017, 10:18 am
#717
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: BGO (Temporarily HEL)
Programs: AY+ Gold, SK EBG
Posts: 400
Itinerary: HEL-ICN (flying OSL-HEL in Economy first)
Fee: 373 EUR
Flyer tier: New Finnair Plus member, no OW status
Ticket type: R (Youth)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: E-mail
373 EUR seems pretty steep, but I don't really have too much to compare it with. Atleast the ones in the top post were cheaper.
Also, this is my first post on the forum! Had it mentioned to me by somebody else, and have lurked a little, but yeah. Figured this was a good time to make an account!
Fee: 373 EUR
Flyer tier: New Finnair Plus member, no OW status
Ticket type: R (Youth)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: E-mail
373 EUR seems pretty steep, but I don't really have too much to compare it with. Atleast the ones in the top post were cheaper.
Also, this is my first post on the forum! Had it mentioned to me by somebody else, and have lurked a little, but yeah. Figured this was a good time to make an account!
Last edited by Superrman; Dec 27, 2017 at 10:24 am
Dec 28, 2017, 3:24 am
#719
Ambassador: Finnair Plus
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Plat, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist, Priority Club Plat Amb, Miles and Smiles Elite
Posts: 5,279
Itinerary: HEL-ICN (flying OSL-HEL in Economy first)
Fee: 373 EUR
Flyer tier: New Finnair Plus member, no OW status
Ticket type: R (Youth)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: E-mail
373 EUR seems pretty steep, but I don't really have too much to compare it with. Atleast the ones in the top post were cheaper.
Also, this is my first post on the forum! Had it mentioned to me by somebody else, and have lurked a little, but yeah. Figured this was a good time to make an account!
Fee: 373 EUR
Flyer tier: New Finnair Plus member, no OW status
Ticket type: R (Youth)
Validity: 36h
Advance: 7 days
Conveyance: E-mail
373 EUR seems pretty steep, but I don't really have too much to compare it with. Atleast the ones in the top post were cheaper.
Also, this is my first post on the forum! Had it mentioned to me by somebody else, and have lurked a little, but yeah. Figured this was a good time to make an account!
IMO €373 is a actually pretty good for long-haul upgrade, especially for night flight (if you value better chance to sleep).
Dec 28, 2017, 3:39 am
#720
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: BGO (Temporarily HEL)
Programs: AY+ Gold, SK EBG
Posts: 400
Thanks for the reply! After talking to some of my friends that are more frequent flyers than I am, and considering that I'll have a pretty busy schedule on arrival, I decided to go for the upgrade. I just found it a bit weird that it was a fair bit steeper than the offers listed in the OP.
