WilcoRoger

forget it, I read on...

tsastor

Great to have you here, FinnairPlusrep! And as Kallio said, please contact FT to have you recognized as the official company representative. That way your handle will show up in green and we will all recognize you as the "voice of Finnair Plus". May I also suggest to you to write your handle as FinnairPlusRep.

tsastor

And congratulations to Finnair for running a really professional operation ex. DEL together with a really professional crew. Also food in Y seems to have improved slightly, although the pre-landing sandwich is still unedible.

cosmos57

Is this the right thread to ask the FinnairPlus Rep about HEL-SIN route?

I have been watching this thread eagerly as my partner and I are flying a 'bucketlist' trip to OZ in early January: MAN-HEL-SYD in business class.
We chose Finnair(perhaps naively) because it was rated four-star and mistakenly I thought it was all flat- beds.

I am now reading all kinds of reviews (here and on Skytrax) that IFE that doesn't work and old planes in need of TLC.
Is Finnair actively working to correct IFE problems or is it just hit and miss?

Also, what are the differences on the 'old' A340 planes that seem to be so talked about? How can we find out which 'plane will be operating on our travel days? I'm sure all this sounds really inconsequential for frequent flyers but to us this is a trip of a lifetime.

Are the almost lie flat beds so awful?

Any reassurances would be welcome......

SPBanker

I think it is impossible to say now what plane will be flying what route in early January. Closer to the date you can check http://www.ftdashboard.net/ay.htm to see what planes are flying where.

I have slept relatively comfortably on the angled flat seats, but obviously YMMV. Otherwise the older planes are, well, older. A bit more worn out etc.

cosmos57

YMMV ?

SPBanker

Your mileage may vary. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/YMMV

cosmos57

Thank you for that piece of information. I eagerly await any response from FinnairPlus Rep.....

Benzin

You might be right.

I got carried away with the 1994 ex-Virgin, I confess I might not have experience on that but not sure as I have not checked the airplane codes when boarding. Maybe I have understood the ex-Virgin product wrong? I would so love to see full flat seats on the 340's and "1994" was a red flag for me. Does it have the traditional Finnair lie flats? Screen? I have not found specific info on that even here in FT. But I guess I was too quick in drawing conclusions, sorry.

But I do have experience on the ex-AF and the biz seat is somehow odd when upright, it keeps your neck bended forward. And the screen is small. I would have liked to see +10% earnings to compensate slightly for the inferior product or -5000 upgrade points for the same reason.

Kallio

Ex-Virgin A340 has same seats and IFE as newer A340s. Angled lie-flats in biz as only fully flats are in A330s (and not even all of them have those) though. And I go to roller coasters or drive sports cars if I want thrills from motion, so in my opinion A340 has a nice, quiet and comfortable ride in the skies.

TTL

What will happen to the good old booking class letters in the new system? Other FFPs depend on that information. And how to book a specific letter in the future?

CDIJ in Business?
YBH in Pro?
KMPT in Value?
-------cut out limit for any OW mileage of value-------
The rest in Basic?

LH747FTL

AA has been 100-200% all classes depending on status, if that's cut, goodbye AY for good.

MrsMK

Do you mean that some or one of the AY 340s have fully flat seats?

esledo

There has been some conversation about the seating plans and configurations on AY LH fleet. Hopefully this will provide some clarification what to expect:

Five A340s (LQA-LQE) have the same seating configuration, "old Finnair style" angled lie-flat bed in J. Economy seats are also the same. In other words cabinwise no difference between 1994 LQA and 2008 LQE.

Two ex-AF A340s (LQF/LQG) have ex-AF seats (with Finnair textiles though), AF-style angled lie-flat in J and AF-style Y seats with smaller IFE screen than in LQA-LQE.

Four A330s (LTM-LTP) have the same seats than LQA-LQE, angled lie-flat etc., the only difference is the lighter blue colours in the textiles.

One A330 (LTR) has the new bigger J class, with the new fully flat seats.

Three A330s (LTS-LTU) have the same new J seats than LTR, just fewer seats in J resulting more seats in Y class. All A330s have the same Y seat than LQA-LQE.

Consistent product, eh?

MrsMK

Yes, isn't it! I'll fly to BKK soon and will have a "solo" seat. Is that configuration always with the new flat seats? Thanks!