Starwood + Marriott - How Will Fairmont Respond?

 
Old Nov 26, 15, 6:06 am
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Starwood + Marriott - How Will Fairmont Respond?

I'm just trying to work the same magic as this thread did:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilto...respond-3.html
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Old Nov 26, 15, 6:55 am
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I hope IHG buys them out...which is an about face from what I wanted to see happen, given Marriott/Starwood.
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Old Nov 27, 15, 9:19 am
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I hope Fairmont stays independent. Any merger would be disastrous.
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Old Nov 27, 15, 10:37 am
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This is my favorite program. So, I am hoping they stay independent.
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Old Nov 27, 15, 1:30 pm
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IHG and FRHI couldn't come to terms in October, maybe this changes with the SPG/M merger, but like the above posters I desire an independent FRHI/Fairmont.
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Old Nov 28, 15, 3:18 am
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Any preferred constellation on your part here - Accor, IHG, Hilton?
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Old Nov 28, 15, 3:34 am
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I actually intended for this post to talk about the possibility of Fairmont offering a status match like Hyatt and Hilton have recently started...
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Old Nov 28, 15, 6:24 pm
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Fairmont does not compete directly and probably doesn't care. They are still a 100 hotel chain, 3000 or 10000 hotels doesn't change their strategy.
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Old Nov 29, 15, 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by hailstorm View Post
I actually intended for this post to talk about the possibility of Fairmont offering a status match like Hyatt and Hilton have recently started...
You refer in your introduction in the first post here to the FTs HHonors thread, same title. The topic is discussed openly there in different directions, including merger options.

An offer for status match would not make sense for me personally, as there is only one Fairmont hotel in Germany (four Swissotels or so, if those stays would count), the area I mainly travel. It could make sense especially for Starwood elite members who travel in other parts of the world such as North America and who mainly stay at upscale and luxury hotels. Provided they think it makes sense for them if they have read the news mentioned below.



Originally Posted by AMRivlin View Post
Fairmont does not compete directly and probably doesn't care. They are still a 100 hotel chain, 3000 or 10000 hotels doesn't change their strategy.
Well, you are probably right. Except they are sold to a company with some thousand hotels such as Accor, IHG, Hilton.


Middle East Owners of FRHI Hotels Looking to Sell Luxury Hotel Operator

http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/20...otel-operator/


Marriott buys Starwood; Accor in talks with Fairmont...

http://www.4hoteliers.com/features/article/9423
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Originally Posted by submonte View Post
Except they are sold to a company with some thousand hotels such as Accor, IHG, Hilton.
In which case, the answer would be the same. The parent company might do something, but Fairmont would make no response.
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Originally Posted by hailstorm View Post
I actually intended for this post to talk about the possibility of Fairmont offering a status match like Hyatt and Hilton have recently started...
I'm more interested in whether Hilton will status match to Fairmont Platinum. THAT'S a discussion I would guess would be of more interest in this particular forum.

I'll give it a shot and keep my fingers crossed. Have already submitted my request to Hyatt...
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Old Nov 29, 15, 6:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Shenanigans View Post
I'm more interested in whether Hilton will status match to Fairmont Platinum. THAT'S a discussion I would guess would be of more interest in this particular forum.

I'll give it a shot and keep my fingers crossed. Have already submitted my request to Hyatt...
As of now, they would only match to Hyatt Platinum, not Hyatt Diamond.
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Old Nov 30, 15, 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by hailstorm View Post
As of now, they would only match to Hyatt Platinum, not Hyatt Diamond.
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Old Nov 30, 15, 12:36 pm
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman View Post
I hope Fairmont stays independent. Any merger would be disastrous.
I think the problem is that FRHI's owners, Kingdom Holding Company and Qatar, are having financial difficulties.

Qatar's running its first budget deficit in 15 years due to falling energy prices and an expensive build prior to hosting the World Cup.

Kingdom Holding Company broke ground on Kingdom Tower a couple of years ago. They have plans for $20 Billion in construction for Kingdom Tower and the surrounding area. This will be negative cash flow for quite a few years.
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Old Nov 30, 15, 12:52 pm
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The Prince did say he will give all of his wealth to charity, this would include his ownership of Kingdom Holdings.
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