Which Fairmont hotels are real luxury properties ?

 
Old Mar 13, 15, 6:36 pm
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Which Fairmont hotels are real luxury properties ?

Which Fairmont property is the most upscale to burn free night and suite upgrade certificates?

I have been at the following so far:
The Plaza New York
The Savoy London
The Montreux Palace
Fairmont Dubai The Palm (not a real luxury property, at least for Dubai standards)

I'm tempted by Hamburg and maybe Monaco. Any other suggestions?
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Old Mar 13, 15, 8:11 pm
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Originally Posted by JohnRain View Post
Which Fairmont property is the most upscale to burn free night and suite upgrade certificates?

I have been at the following so far:
The Plaza New York
The Savoy London
The Montreux Palace
Fairmont Dubai The Palm (not a real luxury property, at least for Dubai standards)

I'm tempted by Hamburg and maybe Monaco. Any other suggestions?
Suite Upgrade certificates are not accepted at The Savoy or The Plaza, per the terms and conditions.

I have a stay for a few nights booked at Montreux for this summer using both a suite upgrade and a free night that I'm quite looking forward to.

Getting the best use out of certificates isn't just about finding the nicest property. Consider that some properties are more flexible than others on how you can use your upgrades. So, a place like Montreux might only let you use a suite upgrade cert to go into a junior suite. Other properties will let you book into higher category suites. Other properties will be flexible and let you use the certificates toward things like specialty gold suites that are not within program rules.
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Old Mar 13, 15, 9:36 pm
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Also, some Fairmont may not be as "real luxury" as other but may offer great value at certain time of the year because of their situation. Think Banff in summer or Whistler in winter. Certainly not as luxurious as the Plaza for example, but I would chose Banff before the Plaza at any time.
But if "real luxury hotel" is all you want, I would suggest to look at the Fairmont outside the US / Canada.
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Old Mar 14, 15, 7:08 am
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Originally Posted by Yul_voyager View Post
Also, some Fairmont may not be as "real luxury" as other but may offer great value at certain time of the year because of their situation. Think Banff in summer or Whistler in winter. Certainly not as luxurious as the Plaza for example, but I would chose Banff before the Plaza at any time.
But if "real luxury hotel" is all you want, I would suggest to look at the Fairmont outside the US / Canada.
+1 to that.

Banff offers very good value. The large 1-bedroom suites can be booked with the suite upgrade cert. It's not the most luxurious room out there (but it's not bad either), and the bathrooms are a bit small and dated, but the suites are large and have beautiful views in different directions. They're usually rather expensive, especially in the summer, normally costing just over double the price of a Fairmont room. Stack a free night on top and you get a really nice stay for very little.

I'm not sure I'd agree that Whistler is great value. Maybe I've had bad luck, but I've never been able to get them to accept the suite upgrade for anything better than a Junior Suite. Last week, I booked a stay at Whistler for next Feb (hoping they have better weather next year than 2015). With the CAA rates, the Fairmont room was $439/night while a Junior suite was only $559. I'd rather save my upgrade for a different property. In the end, I ended up paying $607/night to book a Gold room for the week. The other problem I've had at Whistler, is that I often want to stay more than 5 nights on ski trips, or at certain times the hotel has a 7 night minimum, and they want you to use 2 certs if you go beyond 5 nights.

My best value so far had to be at Lake Louise last September, where the hotel let me book the Marquis de Lorne Signature Lakeview Gold Suite for 4 nights with a very reasonable copayment.

In the end, I don't choose my travel destinations based on the hotel and the value in using the certificates. I pick my destinations based on where I want to go. I then use my certificates at the specific properties within that group where they save me the most money.
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Old Mar 14, 15, 5:03 pm
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Originally Posted by Yul_voyager View Post
Also, some Fairmont may not be as "real luxury" as other but may offer great value at certain time of the year because of their situation. Think Banff in summer or Whistler in winter. Certainly not as luxurious as the Plaza for example, but I would chose Banff before the Plaza at any time.
But if "real luxury hotel" is all you want, I would suggest to look at the Fairmont outside the US / Canada.
The service I've received at the Banff Springs has been pretty close to luxury standard, e.g. my friend and I arrived after biking from Jasper. We were a bit ahead of check in time, so they offered a regular room so we could get changed and have a shower and arranged to get us on the hotel tour the day we arrived.

Also at least in Canada, the railroads built the properties fairly large (many times they were the first major hotel built in the city). It be pretty hard to run an 400+ room property as a luxury hotel. That's part of the reason they came up with Fairmont Gold I imagine.
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In Canada it's really only the Pacific Rim that qualifies as a luxury (i.e. a real 5*) property. The old CP hotels have "charm" but that's not the same thing. Of the Grand Hotels, Banff and LL probably come closest to charm and luxury. All the other properties are firmly in the 4* category. The Reine Elizabeth and Fairmont Winnipeg have a certain nostalgic quality, but only if you grew up in East Germany.
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Memorable fairmont stays (using free night certs) for me are:
-Beijing
-Bali
-Banff
-Lake Louise
-Pacific Rim
-San Francisco

Next on the list (summer):
-The Plaza
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Originally Posted by JohnRain View Post
Which Fairmont property is the most upscale to burn free night and suite upgrade certificates?

I have been at the following so far:
The Plaza New York
The Savoy London
The Montreux Palace
Fairmont Dubai The Palm (not a real luxury property, at least for Dubai standards)

I'm tempted by Hamburg and maybe Monaco. Any other suggestions?
the Fairmont Monaco (and actually all other properties in Monaco) are a far cry from a luxury hotel, especially if you're looking for the service that any other luxury hotel in the world provides. In all fairness though, none of the properties in Monaco provide that level of service.

I second San Francisco as one worth visiting that isn't on your list. Hamburg is also quite nice, although the city is best during pre-Christmas for the markets.
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Old Apr 2, 15, 1:24 pm
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I don't know if you would consider it luxury, but I loved the Fairmont Battery Wharf. I'm sad that the Fairmont sold it.
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Originally Posted by FrequentFlyerYYZ View Post
The Reine Elizabeth and Fairmont Winnipeg have a certain nostalgic quality, but only if you grew up in East Germany.
The funniest thing I've read all week. A tad unfair, but funny anyway.
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Old Apr 12, 15, 5:00 am
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It's hard to say which are true luxury but many of the different hotels have a bit of luxury for a specific reason for example:

Whistler - It's a gorgeous ski in/ ski out lodge on one of the best ski mountains in the world.

Sonoma - The thermal pool spa is incredible

Mayakoba - The pool/beach area is top notch

Monaco - The roof top pool overlooking the race track and famous casino it pretty high end luxury

The Battery Warf - the suites that have the patio overlooking the bay with their own dining room table are pretty exceptional

Copley Plaza - The JFK suite is pretty amazing

The San Francisco presidential suite with 280 views of the bay and city is remarkable etc.

It really depends on the room, location, and mindset if you're pushing for luxury.
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Dear JohnRain,

In addition to all the properties already mentioned, I will had in North America (Bermuda, Canada) the following where I have stayed and will qualify as real luxury properties to burn free nights and suite upgrades:

Chateau Frontenac, Quebec City, Canada, (still today the most photographed hotel in the world) my choice of room will go to top floors for the view, not necessarily a Gold floor room, but one of the top floor rooms with a Jacuzzi in the room. (not in the bathroom).

Hotel Vancouver, (the oldest Fairmont property in the city) where I had a lower floor room, but the largest regular room ever, since it is also used as a conference room, and it comes equipped with a very large Murphy bed.

Toronto Fairmont Royal York, Canada, similar to Hotel Vancouver and Chateau Frontenac, however here I will go for the Gold floor room.

San Francisco Fairmont Ghirardeli Square at Fisherman's Wharf, this is a residential property, so all rooms are already suites (no Gold floor). I stayed there during the 2013 America's Cup final and received some of the best amenities ever at a Fairmont (wine tasting and snacks every afternoon, free use of the BMW car with the driver)

In Bermuda, the Fairmont Southampton, is very well located on the Atlantic Ocean, facing the south coast.
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Great suite upgrade in Singapore last year, with lounge access. Large room, wonderful views, non-intrusive excellent service.
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We used one a few years ago in Montreux. The Junior suite we received was quite nice and had one of the best views over lake Geneva you could ever imagine. We spent a good amount of time on the balcony admiring It.
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Originally Posted by mattking2000 View Post
the Fairmont Monaco (and actually all other properties in Monaco) are a far cry from a luxury hotel, especially if you're looking for the service that any other luxury hotel in the world provides. In all fairness though, none of the properties in Monaco provide that level of service.

I second San Francisco as one worth visiting that isn't on your list. Hamburg is also quite nice, although the city is best during pre-Christmas for the markets.
I agree on the Fairmont Monaco BUT it is probably the best value hotel in Monaco which is why we go back. The Hermitage is pure luxury and we love it- but you pay accordingly.

We liked Whistler in Winter, not the most luxury hotel but luxury enough to enjoy!

Savoy in London is fabulous.

Fairmont in Montreaux is meant to be very good
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