Fairmont Chase Signature Card
#2071
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Programs: Bonvoy P, HHonors Dia, Hyatt Disc, FPC, Alaskan, Hawaiian, AA, United, Elevate, Amex
Posts: 192
Wish we could petition Fairmont / Chase to extend the lifetime of the certs, for those of us who only needed to meet the 6K spend. I'll be able to use one cert around Thanksgiving, but no opportunities to use the other by the deadline of Feb 28th. I don't have 6K of spend between now and the 8/14 to extend my certs. Also hope they don't drag their feet issuing the certs. What was it, 4 to 8 weeks *after* 8/14? Will be good to see data points here.
Otherwise, save that one, and use the 2/28 cert for Thanksgiving.
#2072
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Sonoma County, CA
Programs: Bonvoy P, HHonors Dia, Hyatt Disc, FPC, Alaskan, Hawaiian, AA, United, Elevate, Amex
Posts: 192
BTW, I think I was told the certs would be issued in October.
#2073
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,787
Oh boy -- I'm so confused. Sorry in advance.
My wife has the Fairmont card and about 16,000 points. Her annual fee posted a few days ago, and is due to be paid on 9/1. She already has a Sapphire Reserve and a Freedom Unlimited. I believe that she is over 5/24, but probably will be Chase eligible again in a couple of months and might want the Sapphire Preferred.
What should she do? Assuming she gets product changed next week, that would be great for her existing Fairmont Rewards point balance, which should turn into UR points. But what should she do with her new chase sapphire card? If she product changes it to a regular freedom, that should be good, right? She'll now be eligible for the 5x categories each quarter. And, assuming chase doesn't change its terms, this shouldn't significantly affect her ability to get a Chase Sapphire Preferred card bonus when she drops under 5/24, right? As I read it, she won't have the CSP at the time of applying (once the product change is complete) and she won't have received a bonus in the last 24 months.
Does that make sense?
The only monkey wrench would be if it takes some time for the fairmont points to be converted into UR points, such that she can't do the product change before her annual fee is due.
My wife has the Fairmont card and about 16,000 points. Her annual fee posted a few days ago, and is due to be paid on 9/1. She already has a Sapphire Reserve and a Freedom Unlimited. I believe that she is over 5/24, but probably will be Chase eligible again in a couple of months and might want the Sapphire Preferred.
What should she do? Assuming she gets product changed next week, that would be great for her existing Fairmont Rewards point balance, which should turn into UR points. But what should she do with her new chase sapphire card? If she product changes it to a regular freedom, that should be good, right? She'll now be eligible for the 5x categories each quarter. And, assuming chase doesn't change its terms, this shouldn't significantly affect her ability to get a Chase Sapphire Preferred card bonus when she drops under 5/24, right? As I read it, she won't have the CSP at the time of applying (once the product change is complete) and she won't have received a bonus in the last 24 months.
Does that make sense?
The only monkey wrench would be if it takes some time for the fairmont points to be converted into UR points, such that she can't do the product change before her annual fee is due.
Last edited by lkar; Aug 9, 2017 at 12:49 pm
#2074
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,445
If the certs are issued in Oct and expire on 2/28/18, that's a cert lifetime of just under 5 months. Seems like this allows Chase / Fairmont to offer a benefit many won't be able to redeem.
#2075
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Menlo Park, CA, USA
Programs: UA 1MM 0P, AA, DL, *wood, Lifetime FPC Plat., IHG, HHD
Posts: 6,912
I'm trying to figure out what to do with 90K points? I could get about 900$ in fairmont gift cards, seems a pretty decent deal actually. Or some hotel certificates, although the pricing for points for the category of hotels seems higher than rates, other than things like suites - which I'm hoping we'll still be getting suite upgrades to not worth a days coupon when I can upgrade a whole stay at a lower rate.
As I already have a CSR, I'm going to decline the free CSP card, will they transfer credit balance to a different chase card?
As I already have a CSR, I'm going to decline the free CSP card, will they transfer credit balance to a different chase card?
#2076
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 324
I think the general consensus is to let the Fairmont points convert to Sapphire points as those are worth 1.25 or 1.5 cents with travel. Plus they are more versatile in that they can be transferred directly to partners for things like aireline seat upgrades.
#2077
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: NYC
Programs: DL Plat, 1 MM; SPG LT Plat (RIP); Marriott LT Titanium; Fairmont Plat (RIP), DL Kryptonium Medallion
Posts: 1,791
The only reason to use Fairmont points as Fairmont points, now that the Chase conversion option exists, would be for:
- Booking suites /Fairmont gold rooms, particularly at higher-category hotels. They cost only a few points more than regular rooms, much smaller percentage difference than when booking with cash
- Booking at a place where there is a huge variation, either day of week (Fairmont Sonoma will sell out, or else become very expensive, on weekends, but is reasonably priced on weekedays), or time of year. The pricing of the base room categories seems calculated so that, on a weighted-average basis, to be about the same value as gift cards.
- Booking suites /Fairmont gold rooms, particularly at higher-category hotels. They cost only a few points more than regular rooms, much smaller percentage difference than when booking with cash
- Booking at a place where there is a huge variation, either day of week (Fairmont Sonoma will sell out, or else become very expensive, on weekends, but is reasonably priced on weekedays), or time of year. The pricing of the base room categories seems calculated so that, on a weighted-average basis, to be about the same value as gift cards.
#2078
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 116
My anniversary was on 8/9 and yesterday (8/10) I put $6059 on the card. Hope to see two free night certs in my account in October plus another 6000 chase points.
#2079
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Near SEA
Programs: UA MM, AS MVPG75K, Marriott Lifetime Gold
Posts: 7,969
#2080
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: msp
Programs: DL Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 798
so, I wanted to get the CSP bonus and tried to open the card now before they transfer for me. got the "we need more time" message so now I assume they will separately go ahead and transfer and i might end up with 2??? I will cancel one but I'm more interested in the 50K bonus offer and fear I won't get it now.
#2081
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: PHX
Posts: 4,787
so, I wanted to get the CSP bonus and tried to open the card now before they transfer for me. got the "we need more time" message so now I assume they will separately go ahead and transfer and i might end up with 2??? I will cancel one but I'm more interested in the 50K bonus offer and fear I won't get it now.
Maybe what you should do is as soon as your Fairmont card shows up as a Sapphire card in your account, call to product change it. Wait until you've done that to call reconsideration, or to offer to move credit lines, or whatever. That way, you can say that at the time you applied and at the time you were accepted, you didn't have the card.
#2082
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Charleston, SC, USA
Programs: Avis Pref+, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Life Gold, Honors Silver, IHG Plat via MC.
Posts: 6,786
Only hours until D-Day! I'm happy, because I want to use my 14K points for something better than $140 of (gasoline) gift cards!
And I have my 2 +1 more soon free nights to enjoy + 2 (B2G1) certs.
Balances usually update nightly around 10:40--11:00 PM EST/EDT. My statement closing date is the 14th of each month. So it's official!! I have ~14K Chase points available to transfer starting tomorrow !
And I have my 2 +1 more soon free nights to enjoy + 2 (B2G1) certs.
Balances usually update nightly around 10:40--11:00 PM EST/EDT. My statement closing date is the 14th of each month. So it's official!! I have ~14K Chase points available to transfer starting tomorrow !
Last edited by Brendan; Aug 14, 2017 at 8:51 pm
#2083
Join Date: May 2015
Location: LAX, BUR
Programs: AS,AA,JB, HH Gold, Starriott Titanium Elite, Hyatt Explorist, Global Entry
Posts: 1,930
Yep, many of us predicted when the Accor purchase was announced that this was a backdoor way to get another Chase UR card. While at the same time enjoying the Fairmant benefits! Win Win Win!
#2084
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,445
1) Since I already have a CSP and...
2) So I can sock-drawer the CSP and work the quarterly bonus categories with the CF
Wouldn't be able to get the CF otherwise (not the CFU... not even sure what the differentiator there is) since I'm so far over 5/24 that it's, well, quite funny.
Going for the gold until nearly all the banks crack down. Then I'll go into mile and points portfolio maintenance mode. Sure would be nice to get the United, Southwest, and Marriott cards again.
Last edited by moretimeoffguy; Aug 15, 2017 at 6:44 am
#2085
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: 718
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Platinum, IHG Diamond
Posts: 966
best move ever and was >5/24. Sad thing is... I actually really enjoyed this card and wish it stayed T_T