Important Change to Your Fairmont President's Club Membership
Dec 12, 2017, 7:08 am
#1
Company Representative, Fairmont
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: Fairmont Presidents Club
Posts: 16
Important Change to Your Fairmont President's Club Membership
On July 2nd, 2018, Fairmont President’s Club will officially join the award-winning Le Club AccorHotels, providing you with more rewards and member privileges than ever before! Any stays until July 1st, 2018, will apply to your new status with Le Club AccorHotels and all Fairmont President’s Club e-certificates will remain valid for use at participating properties until February 28th, 2019. While the way you spend and earn rewards is evolving, rest assured that your Fairmont experience will not change. For all the details, visit: http://fpcmembersite.com
Dec 12, 2017, 7:32 am
#2
Join Date: Dec 2016
Posts: 9
Just read through this. Disappointing as long time FPC Platinum. No more Suite upgrades after end of Feb 2019 - existing FPC certificates expire Feb 28,2019. Merged program all revenue based.
Dec 12, 2017, 7:40 am
#3
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Edmonton, AB, Canada
Programs: AC 75K, Hertz President’s Circle, Accor Gold, Hilton Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 10,068
FPC RIP
I am done. The Accor program and service levels are abominable compared to Fairmont. I couldn’t even get anyone at Accor to even pick up the phone on their Platinum line. Already lost 4 nights and another week will be booked elsewhere soon.
Dec 12, 2017, 7:57 am
#4
Join Date: Apr 2010
Programs: United 1K, Hyatt Diamond, Starwood Platinum
Posts: 119
re: FPC RIP
Is there any incentive at all for current Fairmont Plainums to be loyal to Accor? It seems benefits are being reduced to almost nothing. Am I missing something?
Dec 12, 2017, 8:04 am
#5
Join Date: May 2010
Location: YYC
Programs: Aeroplan, FPC Platinum, SPG/Marriott Gold, Radisson Gold Elite, BW Diamond Select
Posts: 293
Yup, on first glance, me no like.
I appreciate the availability of a FairmontLiaison but even you have to admit that this is the death knell of a much better program in favour of something much less. "Award-winning" indeed.
I appreciate the availability of a FairmontLiaison but even you have to admit that this is the death knell of a much better program in favour of something much less. "Award-winning" indeed.
Dec 12, 2017, 8:24 am
#6
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,766
I just did the math:
Platinum: Spend $454 EUROS to get a $40 EURO off your next stay. (44 points per $10 Euro = 2000 points per $454 euro)
Silver: Spend $541 EUROS to get $40 EURO off your next stay (37 points per $10 Euro = 2000 points per $541 Euro).
I am simply not pleased with this. Shame on Accor. I have been a Platinum member since 2007, but 2018 will be my last. On the surface a near 10% return doesn't seem bad, but they have stripped all of the great things that Fairmont was. I was much happier earning no return on my spend and getting certificates for nights, suites, spa, etc. It really was the best loyalty program out there.
Platinum: Spend $454 EUROS to get a $40 EURO off your next stay. (44 points per $10 Euro = 2000 points per $454 euro)
Silver: Spend $541 EUROS to get $40 EURO off your next stay (37 points per $10 Euro = 2000 points per $541 Euro).
I am simply not pleased with this. Shame on Accor. I have been a Platinum member since 2007, but 2018 will be my last. On the surface a near 10% return doesn't seem bad, but they have stripped all of the great things that Fairmont was. I was much happier earning no return on my spend and getting certificates for nights, suites, spa, etc. It really was the best loyalty program out there.
Last edited by CanuckFlyHigh; Dec 12, 2017 at 8:31 am
Dec 12, 2017, 9:00 am
#7
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: SPG Platinum, FPC Platinum, Marriott/Ritz-Carlton Platinum Elite, Accor Platinum, AC SE, MPC SL
Posts: 450
Just read through this. This is a ....in' shame. Let's not mince words here. Goodbye, Fairmont. I will miss you dearly.
Dec 12, 2017, 9:08 am
#8
Join Date: Mar 2000
Posts: 938
Same feeling here...this is what feared would happen (but was hoping I would be wrong, I wasn't). So long Fairmont, Hello Hilton and SPG.
Dec 12, 2017, 9:16 am
#9
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: msp
Programs: DL Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 798
Just sad. Bye Fairmont. Way to s*** on your loyal guests. 😭
Dec 12, 2017, 9:19 am
#10
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: msp
Programs: DL Plat, Marriott Gold, Hilton Gold
Posts: 798
On July 2nd, 2018, Fairmont President’s Club will officially join the award-winning Le Club AccorHotels, providing you with more rewards and member privileges than ever before! Any stays until July 1st, 2018, will apply to your new status with Le Club AccorHotels and all Fairmont President’s Club e-certificates will remain valid for use at participating properties until February 28th, 2019. While the way you spend and earn rewards is evolving, rest assured that your Fairmont experience will not change. For all the details, visit: http://fpcmembersite.com
Dec 12, 2017, 9:23 am
#11
Join Date: Dec 2017
Posts: 1
So if I get Platinum for the 2018 year (ie, Mar 1, 2018 to Feb 28, 2019), I should still get all my certificates (free night, upgrades, $$), and I will be able to use these until Feb 28, 2019? Am I reading it right?
And after that, by all accounts, it sounds like there's no reason to stay ...
And after that, by all accounts, it sounds like there's no reason to stay ...
Dec 12, 2017, 9:29 am
#12
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: YYZ
Programs: Accor ALL Diamond, AC Aeroplan 25K, Nexus/GE
Posts: 2,729
Agreed. The benefits completely suck. On the plus side, it's dead easy to qualify for Accor Platinum compared to Fairmont Platinum qualification.
According to the chart, Platinum members earn 25 points per 10 Euros spent. You need 14,000 points to earn Platinum. That means you can hit Platinum with just 5,600 Euros spent. Is my math correct? I have a single 5-night stay at Lake Louise this summer where I'll spend that. Unless my math is off, or I'm misunderstanding how the program works, my existing bookings at BSH and CLL for 2018 will likely clear 3 times the qualification threshold for Accor Platinum.
So, easier to earn status, but too bad it's not actually worth anything. No guaranteed upgrades upon booking? What bloody use is that?
According to the chart, Platinum members earn 25 points per 10 Euros spent. You need 14,000 points to earn Platinum. That means you can hit Platinum with just 5,600 Euros spent. Is my math correct? I have a single 5-night stay at Lake Louise this summer where I'll spend that. Unless my math is off, or I'm misunderstanding how the program works, my existing bookings at BSH and CLL for 2018 will likely clear 3 times the qualification threshold for Accor Platinum.
So, easier to earn status, but too bad it's not actually worth anything. No guaranteed upgrades upon booking? What bloody use is that?
Dec 12, 2017, 9:31 am
#13
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kirkland, WA
Programs: AS 75K,UA Gold 1.6MM, Hilton Dia, Marriott LT Plat, Hyatt Glb, Natl Exec, Hertz 5*
Posts: 3,657
The bomb we were waiting for has dropped.
Some things I don't understand:
>Platinum = 14,000 Status Points or up to 60 room nightsSo does this mean if I hit 60 nights but status points are short I still qualify? Why does it say "up to"??
>Rewards Points will never expire and are valid for life, subject to one eligible stay per year.Never expire? Doesn't sound like it. So does this mean if you do not stay during one year you lose all your points? Do points expire after one year from earn, or after one year no stay, everything goes poof?
>What really makes Maryam smile though, is that rather than receiving her annual two room and two suite upgrade certificates, she will receive an upgrade to the next best room or room category(4) every single time she stays at a Fairmont or another Le Club AccorHotels property.
Doesn't make me smile. Sure I get upgraded to Deluxe but the standard room I am usually given by the property is better than the Deluxe I sometimes get, so now I have to explain to the property to NOT upgrade me all the time. That will be a real pain. And yes, no more suite upgrades
However, I did not see mention about lounge access. Will Fairmont be required now to make their Gold lounge accessible to Platinums??
I gave up Premier Platinum at Marriott to go Fairmont. Time to go back, esp. since I am in reach of the Lifetime status levels (already have nights for Platinum, just need more points).
Some things I don't understand:
>Platinum = 14,000 Status Points or up to 60 room nights
>Rewards Points will never expire and are valid for life, subject to one eligible stay per year.
>What really makes Maryam smile though, is that rather than receiving her annual two room and two suite upgrade certificates, she will receive an upgrade to the next best room or room category(4) every single time she stays at a Fairmont or another Le Club AccorHotels property.
Doesn't make me smile. Sure I get upgraded to Deluxe but the standard room I am usually given by the property is better than the Deluxe I sometimes get, so now I have to explain to the property to NOT upgrade me all the time. That will be a real pain. And yes, no more suite upgrades
However, I did not see mention about lounge access. Will Fairmont be required now to make their Gold lounge accessible to Platinums??
I gave up Premier Platinum at Marriott to go Fairmont. Time to go back, esp. since I am in reach of the Lifetime status levels (already have nights for Platinum, just need more points).
Dec 12, 2017, 9:33 am
#14
Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: SPG Platinum, FPC Platinum, Marriott/Ritz-Carlton Platinum Elite, Accor Platinum, AC SE, MPC SL
Posts: 450
I wonder what this means for the US/CDN Amex Plat that gives you FPC Plat after 5 nights.
Dec 12, 2017, 9:34 am
#15
Formerly known as newbie elite
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: YUL
Programs: IHG Diamond Ambassador, Accor Platinum, AC50K
Posts: 2,922
Bye Bye Fairmont