Why alcohol get so much attention by travel bloggers?
I noticed that almost any trip reports that travel bloggers post (especially when it's about First class) seem to pay a lot of attention to the premium alcohol served on board. Some even compare bottle retail prices, which I find quite laughable. However nobody seems to care at all about non-alcoholic options. Why isn't anyone writing about apple juices, teas or coffees?
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Because ultimately they are in the business of marketing credit cards which they do by marketing the experience.
It's hard to quantify the value of a "good apple juice" or "good tea" but alcohol brand names are widely recognizable and searchable online making it easy to quantify: hey look with this credit card you get 50k bonus points which is 1 business class ticket to Europe which on airline XYZ means a bed, really good food, and you also get free [fill in the brand] champagne and free [fill in the brand] other alcohol. They are also riding on the coattails of the marketing done by those alcohol brand themselves. For example, Diageo does a great job of marketing Johnnie Walker Blue as an exclusive scotch for the well-connected, well-off, in-the-know individual, with good taste (not say that's true but that's what they are aiming for) and they make sure you know it's expensive (want to impress your boss at the end of the year? get a bottle of Johnnie Walker Blue because it conveys that you spent a lot of money and it's high-end and if they aren't Scotch snobs they won't know you can get much better scotch for the same cost and they'll appreciate it a lot more than if you get an equally expensive and better scotch that has no brand recognition beyond scotch snobs). For the bloggers, focusing on the fact that you can get Johnnie Walker Blue on your First Class experience (which you get by signing up for one of the CC they are selling you) helps you get a taste of the life of someone who regularly drinks Johnnie Walker Blue. |
If I'm reading a review of a J/F cabin, I mainly want to know about the seat itself, the winelist, and what single malt Scotch they're pouring. Johnnie is nice for people who don't want to actually taste their whisky. :p
It should be part of the review, but obviously not the only thing they cover. And J/F review should also cover the lounge(s) involved. I just assume they have coffee, tea, juice, water, and soda. No need to dwell on that. |
Originally Posted by Dlougach
(Post 29255240)
I noticed that almost any trip reports that travel bloggers post (especially when it's about First class) seem to pay a lot of attention to the premium alcohol served on board. Some even compare bottle retail prices, which I find quite laughable. However nobody seems to care at all about non-alcoholic options. Why isn't anyone writing about apple juices, teas or coffees?
I'm not a huge coffee fan, but since high altitude mutes acidic flavors, it would seem that an airplane would be a great place to offer gourmet coffees. Back in my college days my mother gave me a bottle of Dom Perignon. A fraternity brother bought a bottle of Mums Extra Dry for about 25 bucks and we drank both bottles with our dates at a Christmas party. Everyone liked the Mums champagne more. I guess we were and are not fancy enough for the good stuff. |
Originally Posted by Dlougach
(Post 29255240)
I noticed that almost any trip reports that travel bloggers post (especially when it's about First class) seem to pay a lot of attention to the premium alcohol served on board.
Originally Posted by Dlougach
(Post 29255240)
Why isn't anyone writing about apple juices, teas or coffees?
If the coffee/tea is just ordinary airline coffee/tea, then it - just like the standard non-alcoholic drinks on the list - isn't worthy of being mentioned. PS: Merely comparing price tags of bottles is obviously non-sense. |
For a long haul flight, in a premium cabin, the type of alcohol served is one of the distinguishing factors. I'm familiar enough with the major seat vendors that having been in one variant of the Zodiac Cirrus or Apex Skysuite, I have a pretty good idea of what I'm getting. Most major teas/coffees/sodas/juices will be the same, but it's helpful to know if an airline carries a product that's excellent or horrid, and I find reviews do tend to note this.
It's also an opportunity to experience wines or liquors that I may not otherwise be able to try. JAL used to offer Salon as their champagne in F, a bottle whose price tag I could never justify on the ground. ANA similarly serves the Hibiki 21, where noting the price tag may just alert people who would not be able to otherwise experience the drink. Back in my college days my mother gave me a bottle of Dom Perignon. A fraternity brother bought a bottle of Mums Extra Dry for about 25 bucks and we drank both bottles with our dates at a Christmas party. Everyone liked the Mums champagne more. I guess we were and are not fancy enough for the good stuff. |
Originally Posted by Beltway2A
(Post 29255906)
... A lot of this is personal taste. ...
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Because some of us are wine snobs and actually care what the wine it’s looks like.
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Originally Posted by Beltway2A
(Post 29255906)
ANA similarly serves the Hibiki 21, where noting the price tag may just alert people who would not be able to otherwise experience the drink.
It's also interesting to see how different airlines prioritize options and spending. While on the topic of ANA, they have probably the most mediocre wine list I've seen, but the best whisky and sake, because that's Japanese culture, they're not huge wine people. Then you rotate over to Emirates who has built entire wine cellars and bought out vintages to age to release to their flights over the coming years. While I've never flown them, I believe Brussels Air serves up the best beer list in the sky because, guess what, they're from Belgium, where they traffic in excellent beer! But back to the OP, there are only so many kinds of seats and after you've done international F/J you kind of prioritize the soft product like the food, drink, and service. Or at least I do all else being equal. Some airlines are known for their tea options, mainly Asian carriers like CX and JL. I remember on CX ~18 months ago I was served a full tea pot with accompanying cups while waiting for my breakfast. I was impressed, and it was delicious. |
Originally Posted by pinniped
(Post 29255417)
I just assume they have coffee, tea, juice, water, and soda. No need to dwell on that.
Originally Posted by WorldLux
(Post 29255859)
generic OJ and AJ
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You know it's just the Instagrammer-things. A good photo wine always receive good recognization ;)
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Writers usually write about matters that are more likely to interest the bulk of readers. Unless you are a recovering alcoholic or some sort of temperance advocate premium flyers typically have little interest in what brand of apple juice is served on board.
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Originally Posted by krazykanuck
(Post 29256223)
With ANA it's 21 in F, and 17 in J. I fully enjoyed being able to have 17 when I was in ANA J not only because of the price, but also because it's damn near impossible to get a bottle of it in Houston.
It's also interesting to see how different airlines prioritize options and spending. While on the topic of ANA, they have probably the most mediocre wine list I've seen, but the best whisky and sake, because that's Japanese culture, they're not huge wine people. Then you rotate over to Emirates who has built entire wine cellars and bought out vintages to age to release to their flights over the coming years. While I've never flown them, I believe Brussels Air serves up the best beer list in the sky because, guess what, they're from Belgium, where they traffic in excellent beer! But back to the OP, there are only so many kinds of seats and after you've done international F/J you kind of prioritize the soft product like the food, drink, and service. Or at least I do all else being equal. Some airlines are known for their tea options, mainly Asian carriers like CX and JL. I remember on CX ~18 months ago I was served a full tea pot with accompanying cups while waiting for my breakfast. I was impressed, and it was delicious. |
Originally Posted by Segments
(Post 29257371)
Under this logic, reviews of Asian and British airlines should include reviews of the tea selection because it's part of the culture or you may get a rare tea that is hard to locate or very expensive. Yet rarely do the blogs cover it. |
Originally Posted by Dlougach
(Post 29255240)
I noticed that almost any trip reports that travel bloggers post (especially when it's about First class) seem to pay a lot of attention to the premium alcohol served on board. Some even compare bottle retail prices, which I find quite laughable. However nobody seems to care at all about non-alcoholic options. Why isn't anyone writing about apple juices, teas or coffees?
I personally don't generally read reviews or see any sense in doing so. The only people whose opinion I would value on a given subject is someone who I know has the same interests, values, taste, etc. as myself in regards to the subject being reviewed. I value my auto mechanic's opinion on things related to my car but I also know we don't 'fly' in the same circles when it comes to other things and so, would not go looking for his opinion on what airline to fly or why. As for paying any attention to something some total stranger has to say about something like alcohol on a plane, that to me is ridiculous unless you happen to be someone who would be impressed by that and you value the opinion of the person writing about it. How impressed are you by the opinion of strangers on a subject and how high do you value their opinion? If someone has an objective answer to an objective question on a given subject, then looking for an answer makes sense. ie. What is the seat pitch on X plane in Y class on Z airline? But once you move into subjective questions and answers, you might as well ask my auto mechanic for his opinion on champagne X vs. Y. I do think that many people today seem to think they should be able to find an answer to any question they might have including, 'which is a good brand of alcohol to be served on a plane.' I just conclude, that the said many people are not too bright. |
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