Why alcohol get so much attention by travel bloggers?
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OP is Swiss. I would like to offer this reason: I bet most travel writers writing about alcohol are US based. Because America is still suffering the after effects of Prohibition. Blue laws and Demon Rum and all that. Airlines keep alcohol in separate drawers and keep inventory and charge for beer etc. America still has a Prohibition hangover.
I was so pleased years ago the first time I took a KLM cityhopper from AMS to an interior city. The FA came down the aisle with a cart. "What would you like? Here." Soda or beer? Just ask. No charge for the alcoholic beverage. I love the European attitude that beer is just another liquid refreshment to enjoy. They don't waste time with the massive differentiation between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages like the Puritanical Bible Thumping Americans still do. Hence the obsession of "What kind of booze can I get and where can I get it."
Just my 2 cents worth.
I was so pleased years ago the first time I took a KLM cityhopper from AMS to an interior city. The FA came down the aisle with a cart. "What would you like? Here." Soda or beer? Just ask. No charge for the alcoholic beverage. I love the European attitude that beer is just another liquid refreshment to enjoy. They don't waste time with the massive differentiation between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages like the Puritanical Bible Thumping Americans still do. Hence the obsession of "What kind of booze can I get and where can I get it."
Just my 2 cents worth.
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United's switch to Illy coffee a couple of years ago got some attention. Having said that, I find most airline coffee to be unexceptional at best. Fresh espresso options would certainly deserve mention by bloggers but aren't all that common.
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Gotta keep selling those champagne wishes and caviar dreams! Even though the caviar is likely farmed, it is lovingly captured amongst all the proper accoutrements. Because thats how one rolls when one lives the lifestyle of the rich and famous.
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OP is Swiss. I would like to offer this reason: I bet most travel writers writing about alcohol are US based. Because America is still suffering the after effects of Prohibition. Blue laws and Demon Rum and all that. Airlines keep alcohol in separate drawers and keep inventory and charge for beer etc. America still has a Prohibition hangover.
I was so pleased years ago the first time I took a KLM cityhopper from AMS to an interior city. The FA came down the aisle with a cart. "What would you like? Here." Soda or beer? Just ask. No charge for the alcoholic beverage. I love the European attitude that beer is just another liquid refreshment to enjoy. They don't waste time with the massive differentiation between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages like the Puritanical Bible Thumping Americans still do. Hence the obsession of "What kind of booze can I get and where can I get it."
Just my 2 cents worth.
I was so pleased years ago the first time I took a KLM cityhopper from AMS to an interior city. The FA came down the aisle with a cart. "What would you like? Here." Soda or beer? Just ask. No charge for the alcoholic beverage. I love the European attitude that beer is just another liquid refreshment to enjoy. They don't waste time with the massive differentiation between alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages like the Puritanical Bible Thumping Americans still do. Hence the obsession of "What kind of booze can I get and where can I get it."
Just my 2 cents worth.
As a few others have noted upthread, the reason is that it looks cool on IG and attracts people to the blog to generate credit card affiliate link applications which makes these points & miles bloggers money. If the OP is referring to blogs such as some (not all) BoardingArea bloggers, Million Mile Secrets, the Points Guy, etc. these aren't really travel bloggers - they're credit card salesmen using the enticement of travel to sell cards and other affiliate income. Certain of these also like to obsess over warm nuts and hotel shower heads, so take their focus on alcohol with an equal grain of salt.
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I also don't understand the fascination over $50 of drink on a $5,000 ticket. Buy it in a bar after you land. Or if you're really obsessive, you must have some at home. Does an entire trip come crashing down if a flight substituted a brand of Scotch?
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I think there's another element as well. Most restaurant reviews will touch on the alcohol/wine options. With wine, the focus is more on the breadth of selection and price: what can you get and is it a good value compared with other restaurants; with alcohol, it may be as much the skill or the notoriety of the bartender that is mentioned. While I agree that many who fly on planes may not care to have little or any alcohol at all on a flight (I'm drifting towards that camp), mentions of the choices on a flight fit within the pattern of a classic dining review.
The limited selection and the irrelevancy of price, however, feeds into the larger picture for bloggers to make readers think they're missing something elegant by flying in coach and enticing them to apply for credit cards with mileage bonuses that make flying up front easier--at a profit to the blogger.
The limited selection and the irrelevancy of price, however, feeds into the larger picture for bloggers to make readers think they're missing something elegant by flying in coach and enticing them to apply for credit cards with mileage bonuses that make flying up front easier--at a profit to the blogger.
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On a related note...
Airport bars could face hours limits to curb flight rage - BBC News
I wonder if this could affect lounges / in flight alcohol.
Restrictions on the sale of alcohol at UK airports could be introduced in an effort to reduce the number of drink-related rage incidents on planes.
Airports are currently exempt from legislation governing when they can sell alcohol.
Airports are currently exempt from legislation governing when they can sell alcohol.
I wonder if this could affect lounges / in flight alcohol.
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Of course they have it. But the question is - which coffee, which tea and which juice? The brands for those are of course not so well recognizable, but airlines can either pay attention and offer something interesting to those details or have this:
I feel that the reason that most airlines don't actually care (i.e. offer pretty standard things) about the selection of non-alcoholic drinks is that they assume that people don't care about it. Looking at responses on this thread it seems that they are probably right and most people wouldn't care if they get Minute Maid or some real apple juice. In some European countries (at least Switzerland and Austria, but maybe partially Italy and Germany as well) various apple juices started gaining popularity as alcohol-free alternative to wine. Some restaurants are even pairing food with sorts of apples. While it can be a small regional trend that won't spread anywhere, I personally like it, and I would really love to see at least some airlines to follow it.
I feel that the reason that most airlines don't actually care (i.e. offer pretty standard things) about the selection of non-alcoholic drinks is that they assume that people don't care about it. Looking at responses on this thread it seems that they are probably right and most people wouldn't care if they get Minute Maid or some real apple juice. In some European countries (at least Switzerland and Austria, but maybe partially Italy and Germany as well) various apple juices started gaining popularity as alcohol-free alternative to wine. Some restaurants are even pairing food with sorts of apples. While it can be a small regional trend that won't spread anywhere, I personally like it, and I would really love to see at least some airlines to follow it.
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As someone who has just started flying premium cabins after decades in coach, I'm agreeing with the few of you to point out the ASPIRATIONAL aspect of these reviews. Reviewers focus on the things you cannot have (or must pay for) in economy. When I discuss my flights with friends, they care about the things they have never experienced. And most people have flown coach with bland coffee and no name juices.
Want to sleep? J/F have beds!
Want to eat real food (or a semblance thereof)? J/F have catering!
Want an alcoholic drink? It's free, and the quality is probably better!
Want coffee or tea? It's probably the same in the back of the plane as the front...so it's not worth mentioning.
When airlines include special non-alcoholic drinks (such as Jet Blue's mint drink, or Qatar's fruit drink), or special coffee up front, I see reviewers mention it. If the review would be "hey, look at this OJ that you get for free...just like coach" then what's the point?
And pointing out that you could pay for that $100 bottle of champagne on the ground if it mattered misses the point. Beds, food, and booze on the ground are better and cheaper; the comparison is with the experience in back of the plane.
Want to sleep? J/F have beds!
Want to eat real food (or a semblance thereof)? J/F have catering!
Want an alcoholic drink? It's free, and the quality is probably better!
Want coffee or tea? It's probably the same in the back of the plane as the front...so it's not worth mentioning.
When airlines include special non-alcoholic drinks (such as Jet Blue's mint drink, or Qatar's fruit drink), or special coffee up front, I see reviewers mention it. If the review would be "hey, look at this OJ that you get for free...just like coach" then what's the point?
And pointing out that you could pay for that $100 bottle of champagne on the ground if it mattered misses the point. Beds, food, and booze on the ground are better and cheaper; the comparison is with the experience in back of the plane.
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OMG I just wrote a trip report about my business class flight on Air Canada and mentioned how they served tanqueray gin instead of bombay sapphire gin and how it was not cool. I guess I'm one of those people the OP is talking about. I even wrote about how the alcohol in the Maple Leaf Lounge was cheap oops. BTW I don't pedal credit cards. Just a web developer who likes to blow his money on premium travel.
My critique of the alcohol can be found here: Trip Report - Air Canada AC 557 Business Class LAX To Vancouver
Next time I guess I should focus more on the tonic
My critique of the alcohol can be found here: Trip Report - Air Canada AC 557 Business Class LAX To Vancouver
Next time I guess I should focus more on the tonic
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As someone who has just started flying premium cabins after decades in coach, I'm agreeing with the few of you to point out the ASPIRATIONAL aspect of these reviews. Reviewers focus on the things you cannot have (or must pay for) in economy. When I discuss my flights with friends, they care about the things they have never experienced. And most people have flown coach with bland coffee and no name juices.
Want to sleep? J/F have beds!
Want to eat real food (or a semblance thereof)? J/F have catering!
Want an alcoholic drink? It's free, and the quality is probably better!
Want coffee or tea? It's probably the same in the back of the plane as the front...so it's not worth mentioning.
When airlines include special non-alcoholic drinks (such as Jet Blue's mint drink, or Qatar's fruit drink), or special coffee up front, I see reviewers mention it. If the review would be "hey, look at this OJ that you get for free...just like coach" then what's the point?
And pointing out that you could pay for that $100 bottle of champagne on the ground if it mattered misses the point. Beds, food, and booze on the ground are better and cheaper; the comparison is with the experience in back of the plane.
Want to sleep? J/F have beds!
Want to eat real food (or a semblance thereof)? J/F have catering!
Want an alcoholic drink? It's free, and the quality is probably better!
Want coffee or tea? It's probably the same in the back of the plane as the front...so it's not worth mentioning.
When airlines include special non-alcoholic drinks (such as Jet Blue's mint drink, or Qatar's fruit drink), or special coffee up front, I see reviewers mention it. If the review would be "hey, look at this OJ that you get for free...just like coach" then what's the point?
And pointing out that you could pay for that $100 bottle of champagne on the ground if it mattered misses the point. Beds, food, and booze on the ground are better and cheaper; the comparison is with the experience in back of the plane.
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Any review I have read in the past mentioned the content of the drinks list and many of those reviews were not written by US based flyers. Booze in premium classes is just another aspect where airlines can trump each other. Non-alcoholic beverages are often very similar. OP is however right that airlines could score additional points by providing at least in premium classes a selection of extraordinary juices and/or other non-alcoholic products. The question is however where airlines could source such juices as any major airline will need tons of it, and thus possibly more than any of the smaller juice makers can churn out.