Big_Foot

Loyalty is dead.
Credit card bonuses are dead.

Hard to keep pretending you and other bloggers are flying on
"million miles" they are easily making every year (and you can do it too!!!) LOL

Even guys like "the self-called points guy" or "one mile at a time" are silent
about using miles. They still push their credit card links as always
without ever using phrases like 5/24 rule.
Or they push "Buy miles cheaply!" which is what they probably do.
Or they are simply stinking rich and put their big expenses on their cards
- making miles this way. End of story.

Big_Foot

Agree, but do you really want to spend tons of your free time just to follow
an obscure chain of gift cards just to earn a few thousand miles?
When it was BB - Vanilla reloads it was easy and the payoff was big
for little time spent. When you could get tons of 100,000 mile bonuses
one after another (Citi Exec) - it made sense. Now it's all gone
and trying to extract some small leftovers out of this simply doesn't make sense.

satman40

I quit when the dumpster diving for Wendy cups ended, and the mint, the Serve Card, the 5/24 is so bad, I can almost make a million miles a year..

I am going to quit, one of these days,
' SMGC, ...

This is not worth it anymore..

Right...

Long Train Runnin

I don't MS at all. Never have. Don't really care to start. I travel a lot for work. The closest thing I do to MS is buy all my own airfare on my own card and get reimbursement for it. That is why I have an Amex Plat for the 5x on airfare. That right there is fueling a lot of my points earnings. My hotel points come from actually sleeping in hotels. Earning isn't the issue for me.

Plus for the amount of time I spend here on FT I feel like there are worse uses for my free time.

Big_Foot

I call all the posts like this one a complete 100% BS. Sorry.
You can brag as long as you want. What looks like a duck is simply a duck.

Big_Foot

There you go. Pay for your hotels to earn points. What's left to learn?

Long Train Runnin

I guess I'll find out on October 20th?

Sorry you are so bitter about this whole thing. I am personally looking forward to it. If your not don't come. Not sure what else I can say.

Big_Foot

I'm not bitter. It was great while it lasted. Today the best opportunities
are cheap tickets, flying J to Europe for less than $1000 pretty much makes
any effort to collect miles stupid.
I just don't like any liars advertising the non-existing systems just
to attract a crowd of newbies and make money from their innocence

thehowieee

Let us all know when you find some cheese to go with that whine of yours.

• Liars advertising non-existent systems is the last thing you'll see in Chicago.
• This isn't an event where the organizers/speakers/etc make a penny
• Everyone volunteers their time
• After expenses are covered money goes to charity
• We've been doing this for eight years, and people keep coming back - so something about it works
• We're not trying to attract a crowd of newbies and never have - the event is an ice-breaker for many to break out of their shell and come to see folks that have a similar set of interests. Sure we don't cover some of the more advanced things that you'll see elsewhere, but let us be honest, how many people actually can leverage that stuff.
• If you don't have any feedback/comments/discussion points related to the Chicago Seminars, please move on.

Happy Friday everyone!

SkiAdcock

Perhaps you should start a separate thread in this forum re: whether MS, CC, etc, are dead vs. sidetracking this thread w/ your philosophy. The other thread could be an interesting discussion & it would let this thread stay on topic.

Cheers.

FlightNurse

Mic Drop

HMPS

That is a cheap shot !

By definition a newbie is just starting out and often can pick one or two tricks to pay the expenses. Been there six years ago !
Am not sure who are you refering to when you say any liars advertising the non-existing systems just
to attract a crowd of newbies and make money from their innocence

general45

You seem to be a bitter fool. Sure things have changed, but I have changed with the times. I have been doing this hobby (cards only) since the early 2000's and all I can say is I'm at 1.2M miles and points YTD 2017 with no MS and just came back from a $13K trip to Europe spending less than $400.00. I also like to experiment. That's gotten me more miles and points over the years than you can imagine.
I don't really go to the seminar to learn anymore. I go to catch up with old friends and share my ideas and successes with other attendees (and maybe brag a little bit at the bar. ). I'm happy to share. All you have to do is ask (which is the spirit of most attendees).
Oh, and as Howie has mentioned, all proceeds go to charities after expenses and the speakers do it gratis. Why don't you move on.

SkiAdcock

The thread has been split off from the seminar thread (which is why most of the posts have to do w/ the seminar event). But it is an interesting question - is MS, etc, 'dead'? Is flying & sleeping in hotel rooms the only way to rack up points? Discuss/thoughts....

Cheers.

oliver2002

FTUs are most certainly 'for profit' events but still well booked, even so that they opened the FTU 'advanced' seminars which cost even more.... there must be a value proposition somewhere