Live and Lets Fly [merged]
Jul 17, 2019, 3:01 am
#136
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,165
Of course. See his comment that there will be another post about it today. This is just like the drama when a United FA asked him not to take photos. A little controversy spices up the pageviews....
Jul 17, 2019, 3:05 am
#137
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
What’s the legal situation about using “the rod of correction” or any other physical spanking method against a young child in Germany? I am expecting that it’s legal status is different there than in Malaysia, Sri Lanka and the US. Do you think his physical spanking advocacy in the blog entry was done for click-bait purposes? If so, that’s deplorable too.
Last edited by GUWonder; Jul 17, 2019 at 3:12 am
Jul 17, 2019, 3:14 am
#138
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,165
I'm sure @MatthewLAX will soon arrive in this thread and weigh in. Speculation about his motivations, while fun, are probably best answered by him.
In Germany its not allowed by law, the latest edition of the law was even updated to read that a child has the right to a violence free education and besides physical punishment also pschological damage is not allowed: https://lexetius.com/BGB/1631,3 The law doesn't say what the punishment is but points out that the child may be removed from the parents.
In Germany its not allowed by law, the latest edition of the law was even updated to read that a child has the right to a violence free education and besides physical punishment also pschological damage is not allowed: https://lexetius.com/BGB/1631,3 The law doesn't say what the punishment is but points out that the child may be removed from the parents.
Jul 17, 2019, 4:52 am
#139
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Programs: Airline Free Agent, Fairmont Lifetime Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 3,041
It's all about conversions...which it all starts with clicks.
I ignore this site. Looks like it has not changed at all.
Some bloggers will do ANYTHING for a click!
I ignore this site. Looks like it has not changed at all.
Some bloggers will do ANYTHING for a click!
Jul 17, 2019, 7:40 am
#140
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL PM; IHG PlatAmb; Hilton Dia; Marriott Plat; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,320
(Note, his initial post likely violated Article 16 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child.)
Last edited by Adam1222; Jul 17, 2019 at 12:04 pm Reason: typo
Jul 17, 2019, 8:10 am
#141
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: Benicia CA
Programs: Alaska MVP Gold 75K, AA 3.8MM, UA 1.1MM, enjoying the retired life
Posts: 31,849
Speaking of Matthew, whatever happened with his saga about buying first class tickets on Swiss Air that he wanted reimbursed by Aeroplan? Was there ever a resolution to that? This is one of several posts on the topic dating back 18 months ago:
I’M BOOKED IN SWISS FIRST CLASS, ZURICH TO LOS ANGELES…
I’M BOOKED IN SWISS FIRST CLASS, ZURICH TO LOS ANGELES…
Jul 17, 2019, 9:27 am
#142
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
With a more recent blog post, he has repeated some kind of line like this: “There is no expectations of privacy onboard an aircraft.”
There actually is.
If there wasn’t, some paranoid group would be clamoring for plane lavatories with large peep windows and clamoring for them in the name of “security”.
If there wasn’t, airlines wouldn’t have come out saying that the IFE systems’ built-in camera holes are not enabled in some way.
If there wasn’t, fewer airline FAs would make a fuss against passengers wanting to photograph manifests or otherwise see them.
... and so on.
There actually is.
If there wasn’t, some paranoid group would be clamoring for plane lavatories with large peep windows and clamoring for them in the name of “security”.
If there wasn’t, airlines wouldn’t have come out saying that the IFE systems’ built-in camera holes are not enabled in some way.
If there wasn’t, fewer airline FAs would make a fuss against passengers wanting to photograph manifests or otherwise see them.
... and so on.
Jul 17, 2019, 9:40 am
#143
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
Speaking of Matthew, whatever happened with his saga about buying first class tickets on Swiss Air that he wanted reimbursed by Aeroplan? Was there ever a resolution to that? This is one of several posts on the topic dating back 18 months ago:
I’M BOOKED IN SWISS FIRST CLASS, ZURICH TO LOS ANGELES…
I’M BOOKED IN SWISS FIRST CLASS, ZURICH TO LOS ANGELES…
With a more recent blog post, he has repeated some kind of line like this: “There is no expectations of privacy onboard an aircraft.”
There actually is.
If there wasn’t, some paranoid group would be clamoring for plane lavatories with large peep windows and clamoring for them in the name of “security”.
If there wasn’t, airlines wouldn’t have come out saying that the IFE systems’ built-in camera holes are not enabled in some way.
If there wasn’t, fewer airline FAs would make a fuss against passengers wanting to photograph manifests or otherwise see them.
... and so on.
There actually is.
If there wasn’t, some paranoid group would be clamoring for plane lavatories with large peep windows and clamoring for them in the name of “security”.
If there wasn’t, airlines wouldn’t have come out saying that the IFE systems’ built-in camera holes are not enabled in some way.
If there wasn’t, fewer airline FAs would make a fuss against passengers wanting to photograph manifests or otherwise see them.
... and so on.
Jul 17, 2019, 9:52 am
#144
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
Originally Posted by 84fiero
Even if there is/was no legal expectation of privacy for the child, there's a difference between what's legal and what's the decent, mature, and considerate thing to do.
Jul 17, 2019, 9:52 am
#145
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 242
And there's a difference between "You might end up in the background of someone else's pictures," and "someone might take pictures of you to share commercially on a public blog."
Jul 17, 2019, 10:07 am
#146
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 102,095
His blog entry update on the CMB-KLIA flight now basically acknowledges this was done as a form of click-bait:
“Instead, I treated the incident as a spectator sport. Some of you criticized my anger, but trust me…I wasn’t angry at all. I was highly amused, noting at the very outset that this was going to be a great story to draw traffic into the blog. Indeed it was. And perhaps that is even worse than anger…”
If he calls for “the rod of correction” to hit a child when not angry, what kind of violence would be called for when he is angry?
“Instead, I treated the incident as a spectator sport. Some of you criticized my anger, but trust me…I wasn’t angry at all. I was highly amused, noting at the very outset that this was going to be a great story to draw traffic into the blog. Indeed it was. And perhaps that is even worse than anger…”
If he calls for “the rod of correction” to hit a child when not angry, what kind of violence would be called for when he is angry?
Jul 17, 2019, 12:04 pm
#148
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Washington, DC
Programs: DL PM; IHG PlatAmb; Hilton Dia; Marriott Plat; Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,320
Not saying that there would have been a legal claim here, but to say "it was in a public place" does not make it lega. And of course, it doesn't make it morally justifiable to take pictures of a child to generate traffic to your blog.
Jul 17, 2019, 12:12 pm
#149
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Ann Arbor, Michigan
Programs: Airline Free Agent, Fairmont Lifetime Platinum, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 3,041
If they were not seeing clicks...you bet ALL of these blogs would not be posting such clickbait crap! Like shocking videos, self-induced "controversies" and other hideous content.
ENOUGH, stay away!
Jul 17, 2019, 12:42 pm
#150
Join Date: May 2009
Location: South Park, CO
Programs: Tegridy Elite
Posts: 5,678
His blog entry update on the CMB-KLIA flight now basically acknowledges this was done as a form of click-bait:
“Instead, I treated the incident as a spectator sport. Some of you criticized my anger, but trust me…I wasn’t angry at all. I was highly amused, noting at the very outset that this was going to be a great story to draw traffic into the blog. Indeed it was. And perhaps that is even worse than anger…”
If he calls for “the rod of correction” to hit a child when not angry, what kind of violence would be called for when he is angry?
“Instead, I treated the incident as a spectator sport. Some of you criticized my anger, but trust me…I wasn’t angry at all. I was highly amused, noting at the very outset that this was going to be a great story to draw traffic into the blog. Indeed it was. And perhaps that is even worse than anger…”
If he calls for “the rod of correction” to hit a child when not angry, what kind of violence would be called for when he is angry?
I'd hate to be his child, too.