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Kagehitokiri Jul 30, 15 1:28 pm

i was not suggesting "telling" nor "10% bonus in ad revenue share"
but i did not recall you were on BA

sbm12 Jul 30, 15 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25196909)
i was not suggesting "telling" nor "10% bonus in ad revenue share"

Then what are you suggesting??

Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25196909)
but i did not recall you were on BA

Oops. Because I am and have been for many years now.

Kagehitokiri Jul 30, 15 1:53 pm

shows how much i follow blogs and blog forum...

i made a comment, i am not suggesting anything
"wonder if BA encouraged/incentivized"
im not one of the conspiracy theorists here

sbm12 Jul 30, 15 3:03 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25197059)
i made a comment, i am not suggesting anything

And when faced with a specific answer to such you're saying the answer is invalid and keep repeating the "comment" in the form of a question.


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25197059)
im not one of the conspiracy theorists here

I'd like to believe you, but refusing to accept a simple statement of fact in response to an inquiry you posed makes that a bit challenging.

Kagehitokiri Jul 30, 15 4:36 pm

you think im continuing something, im not

i did not say invalid, i said does not address, because we were talking about different things

some mile hoarders can be incentivized by things like one (1) free mile
and encourage does not have to mean giving anything concrete etc

84fiero Jul 30, 15 4:57 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25197059)
shows how much i follow blogs and blog forum...

i made a comment, i am not suggesting anything
"wonder if BA encouraged/incentivized"
im not one of the conspiracy theorists here

Not sure I understand either. You wonder if BA encouraged or incentivized...what?

Kagehitokiri Jul 30, 15 5:00 pm

titles / clickthrough emails / etc

sbm12 Jul 30, 15 5:53 pm


Originally Posted by 84fiero (Post 25198073)
Not sure I understand either. You wonder if BA encouraged or incentivized...what?


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25198094)
titles / clickthrough emails / etc

And I believe I've answered that question. You seem to think I've not. Feel free to ask it again, preferably in a complete sentence with punctuation, if you want a better answer. But at this point it is hard to understand what else you could possibly be looking for.

JetAway Jul 30, 15 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 25198094)
titles / clickthrough emails / etc

Are you posting via Blackberry, iPhone, etc.? If so, the lack of punctuation, caps, etc. makes it hard to follow and understand your points.

bthotugigem05 Jul 30, 15 10:22 pm

I can only speak for me, but my encouragement from everyone at BA is to be myself and write what I want to write when I want to write it.

I know you all roll your eyes at clickbaity titles, but I guarantee you if I ran the exact same post with the title "American Airlines Business Class Review DFW-HKG" and then two days later with "You'll NEVER believe what happened on my flight Hong Kong" the viewership would increase probably fourfold.

That you're still surprised at clickbait titles is probably more on you at this point (I hope that doesn't come across rudely). Clickbait titles are an effective way of building an audience (although maybe not a loyal one), and even when people comment on blog posts criticizing them for the title, that's still engagement...

Canarsie Jul 30, 15 10:36 pm


Originally Posted by bthotugigem05 (Post 25199297)
I can only speak for me, but my encouragement from everyone at BA is to be myself and write what I want to write when I want to write it.

I know you all roll your eyes at clickbaity titles, but I guarantee you if I ran the exact same post with the title "American Airlines Business Class Review DFW-HKG" and then two days later with "You'll NEVER believe what happened on my flight Hong Kong" the viewership would increase probably fourfold.

That you're still surprised at clickbait titles is probably more on you at this point (I hope that doesn't come across rudely). Clickbait titles are an effective way of building an audience (although maybe not a loyal one), and even when people comment on blog posts criticizing them for the title, that's still engagement...

Well, the tag line of your weblog is “imagine a more creative title”...

Kagehitokiri Jul 31, 15 2:46 pm

i know your posts here, and your second reply reminded me youre BA, so i considered this resolved >


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 25196839)
There is nothing handed down from "on high" telling us what to do.


84fiero Jul 31, 15 3:14 pm


Originally Posted by bthotugigem05 (Post 25199297)
I can only speak for me, but my encouragement from everyone at BA is to be myself and write what I want to write when I want to write it.

I know you all roll your eyes at clickbaity titles, but I guarantee you if I ran the exact same post with the title "American Airlines Business Class Review DFW-HKG" and then two days later with "You'll NEVER believe what happened on my flight Hong Kong" the viewership would increase probably fourfold.

That you're still surprised at clickbait titles is probably more on you at this point (I hope that doesn't come across rudely). Clickbait titles are an effective way of building an audience (although maybe not a loyal one), and even when people comment on blog posts criticizing them for the title, that's still engagement...

I don't think anyone here (or most anyone who uses the internet for that matter) is at all surprised by click bait. Quite the contrary. That doesn't mean folks like it.

There is a difference between click-bait and an interesting title...if something unusual or of interest to readers did happen on that flight to Hong Kong, that's not click bait, for example. However if it was a routine flight and the post reflects such, then it's probably click bait.

Click bait is a red flag for a site with poor content that has to resort to gimmicks. If the type of reader who is into that is what a site wants, more power to them. McDonald's has more customers than the nice steak house in town, but I know where I'd prefer to eat.;)

As evidenced by the FTG contributor's public comments, it's frustrating for some writers as well sometimes.

bthotugigem05 Nov 18, 15 9:59 am

Just some data for the discussion. I had three posts yesterday about the AA changes. Two of them had conventional titles and the third was a more click-baity title ("The Nasty change to AAdvantage you may have missed"). For the record, I felt the title was justified because I had looked through all the info I had 2-3 times before I figured it out.

The click-baity titled post got twice the traffic of the other two posts combined. It really does work, although I think people understand that and are just frustrated when the content in the article doesn't really match the urgency or seriousness of the headline.

Astrophsx Nov 18, 15 11:07 am


Originally Posted by bthotugigem05 (Post 25734099)
Just some data for the discussion. I had three posts yesterday about the AA changes. Two of them had conventional titles and the third was a more click-baity title ("The Nasty change to AAdvantage you may have missed"). For the record, I felt the title was justified because I had looked through all the info I had 2-3 times before I figured it out.

The click-baity titled post got twice the traffic of the other two posts combined. It really does work, although I think people understand that and are just frustrated when the content in the article doesn't really match the urgency or seriousness of the headline.

They may work, but after time if you don't have the content to back the title you may lose out on the loyalty of readers. Beyond newbies, loyal readers are probably the ones most likely to use your referral links.


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