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Old Nov 3, 14, 9:41 am
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Copy cat! Copy cat! You copy this and that!

Interesting post I just read: http://loyaltylobby.com/2014/11/01/b...ntbreaks-list/ (hat tip: the link from TBB).

My favorite comment: ""Hat tip" is a blogger weasel word."


Interesting little trap he sprung.

On the one hand, everyone learns/steals from everyone. I always say: stealing from one source is plagiarism; stealing from two sources is editing; stealing from three or more sources is research.

But lifting a value-added piece of work line for line and presenting it as your own work does seem to fall in that first category.
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Old Nov 4, 14, 8:11 am
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Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
I always say: stealing from one source is plagiarism; stealing from two sources is editing; stealing from three or more sources is research.
I like that! Can I use the quote unattributed?
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Old Nov 4, 14, 8:52 am
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I like that! Can I use the quote unattributed?
Jeez...not even a weaselly hat tip!?!!?

Meh, it's public domain. Have at it.
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Old Nov 10, 14, 4:20 am
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Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
My favorite comment: ""Hat tip" is a blogger weasel word."

During my weak efforts at running a blog, I have picked up that Google SEO is big on back links, etc.

So I'm pretty sure "hat tipping" is in the bloggers own interest, provided they link to the place they stole from.
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Old Nov 17, 14, 3:42 pm
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This was yet another item has made me question the quality and ethics of The View from the Wing blog.

I also love that John from LoyaltyLobby doesn't conform to the norms of other bloggers.
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Old Nov 17, 14, 7:16 pm
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This was yet another item has made me question the quality and ethics of The View from the Wing blog.
How in the world can you possibly say that when VFTW is the WoodStein of Cookie Gate!?!!?


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Old Nov 17, 14, 9:56 pm
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Originally Posted by craigthemif View Post
During my weak efforts at running a blog, I have picked up that Google SEO is big on back links, etc.

So I'm pretty sure "hat tipping" is in the bloggers own interest, provided they link to the place they stole from.
No that's not how it works. Hat Tipping is giving link juice back. It is adding links to bigger sites that work in the bloggers best interest, such as trawling the bigger sites leaving messages with linked comments.

But that doesn't mean that taking posts from others to provide fresh content doesn't help a blogger out.
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haha, love the title

http://saverocity.com/pfdigest/forwa...tion-surfaces/

that should clear it up a bit
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Old Jan 14, 15, 2:36 pm
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Originally Posted by freeloader View Post
haha, love the title

http://saverocity.com/pfdigest/forwa...tion-surfaces/

that should clear it up a bit
On the one hand, everyone learns/steals from everyone. I always say: stealing from one source is plagiarism; stealing from two sources is editing; stealing from three or more sources is research.

But lifting a value-added piece of work line for line and presenting it as your own work does seem to fall in that first category.

Wait, it's like deja vu all over again!

AKA, I couldn't believe it when I found out what other blogger was caught plagiarizing! Neither will you!!!!!!
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Old Jan 14, 15, 7:39 pm
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Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
I always say: stealing from one source is plagiarism; stealing from two sources is editing; stealing from three or more sources is research.
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Old Jan 14, 15, 9:33 pm
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I remember Loyalty Traveler did a post on how everyone copied his Pointbreaks list.

IFIRC he misspelled something on purpose and it was on everyone else's page as well.
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Old Jan 14, 15, 10:55 pm
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I agree!
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boardingarea.de also had a blogger who was 'inspired' quite a bit by a fellow BA blog, upto the extent to use the same images. That blog is no longer part of the happy BA conglomerate.
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Old Jan 15, 15, 7:19 am
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Originally Posted by benzemalyonnais View Post
I remember Loyalty Traveler did a post on how everyone copied his Pointbreaks list.

IFIRC he misspelled something on purpose and it was on everyone else's page as well.
Loyalty Lobby did that and it was, let's just say, very interesting to see who copied the list!

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Old Jan 15, 15, 7:33 am
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I've caught one borrower after changing slightly the punctuation in a clip I posted on my page from a targeted promotion.

I didn't report it or make a stink, but it changed how I decided to deal with that individual in the future.

Do your own research, people! There's nothing wrong with a unique twist or commentary on an already blogged about story. But to try to pretend like you broke the news with no hat tip is disingenuous at best, especially when the clipping gives away your original source (either via planted clues like a misspelling or punctuation change) or completely borrows large chunks of text or photos with no attribution.
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