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Originally Posted by gleff
(Post 22713387)
I don't remember how it came about, but I sat there while Seth registered "milestalk.com" himself. (I didn't try to shut down any such conversations as I tend to keep my own counsel, other than pointing out that it could equally be read as "Mile Stalk" which isn't very good.)
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Originally Posted by sbm12
(Post 22713399)
Brainstorming amongst the four of us. I certainly didn't choose it on my own. :rolleyes:
I could be wrong but I think the extent of my brainstorming was to point out that "milestalk" could be read as "mile stalk" :P |
Now I am confused. After seeing smb's post, I did a whois on milestalk.
And that was indeed registered to Seth, Creation Date: 2010-11-11 15:07:24 Then I thought to confirm Gary's post that Milepoint came later, after he, Tommy, Ed and Gary met at his office in January 2011. But apparently Milepoint was registered November 2, 2010. Domain Name: MILEPOINT.COM Registry Domain ID: Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.networksolutions.com Registrar URL: http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/ Updated Date: 2013-08-27T00:00:00Z Creation Date: 2010-11-02T00:00:00Z Registrar Registration Expiration Date: Sun Aug 27 00:00:00 EDT 2023T00:00:00Z Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, LLC. Registrar IANA ID: 2 Registrar Abuse Contact Email: [email protected] Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: 800-333-7680 Reseller: Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited Registry Registrant ID: Registrant Name: Ran Decisions, Inc. Registrant Organization: Ran Decisions, Inc. Registrant Street: 1930 Frequent Flyer Point Registrant City: Colorado Springs Registrant State/Province: CO Registrant Postal Code: 80915 Registrant Country: US Registrant Phone: 999 999 9999 Registrant Phone Ext: Registrant Fax: 999 999 9999 Registrant Fax Ext: Registrant Email: [email protected] Registry Admin ID: Admin Name: Petersen, Randy ContactMiddleName Admin Organization: Frequent Flyer Services Admin Street: 1930 Frequent Flyer Point Admin City: COLORADO SPGS Admin State/Province: CO Admin Postal Code: 80915 Admin Country: US Admin Phone: 719-597-8899 Admin Phone Ext: Admin Fax: 719-597-6855 Admin Fax Ext: Admin Email: [email protected] Registry Tech ID: Tech Name: Ran Decisions, Inc. Tech Organization: Ran Decisions, Inc. Tech Street: 1930 Frequent Flyer Point Tech City: Colorado Springs Tech State/Province: CO Tech Postal Code: 80915 Tech Country: US Tech Phone: 999 999 9999 Tech Phone Ext: Tech Fax: 999 999 9999 Tech Fax Ext: Tech Email: [email protected] Name Server: NS-1643.AWSDNS-13.CO.UK Name Server: NS-414.AWSDNS-51.COM Name Server: NS-874.AWSDNS-45.NET Name Server: NS-1174.AWSDNS-18.ORG DNSSEC: not signed But Gary, Tommy, Ed and Randy didn't start talking about milepoint until January... I realize emotions were running high around that time. Randy's contract (along with his non-compete) with IB was coming to an end. And Randy has quite the cult of personality. I'm sure lots of folks were scrambling to do do lots of things. So To be clear: I am NOT 'accusing' anyone of anything. Just confused about the timeline at this point....because Randy said on MP that MP was Gary, Tommy and Ed's idea....Gary says that idea started in early January....but MP had been registered for 2 months by then...not that I am OWED clarity....but.... |
kokonutz surely you remember that Milepoint was originally a company Randy was involved with over a decade ago, it was in the magazines for miles business as well as working on some back end points transfers with programs (a competitor to points.com back in the day). Nothing confusing at all in that.
The timeline is exactly as I've described with regards to my own progression and involvement. |
I recall a post from Randy where he detailed getting Milepoint.com back from another company that he had planned to do something with a number of years before.
I'm sure you could dig the post up, and repost it. I think he said he always had "something" in mind for Milepoint.com. |
Originally Posted by gleff
(Post 22713562)
kokonutz surely you remember that Milepoint was originally a company Randy was involved with over a decade ago, it was in the magazines for miles business as well as working on some back end points transfers with programs (a competitor to points.com back in the day). Nothing confusing at all in that.
The timeline is exactly as I've described with regards to my own progression and involvement. Then the 4 of you are off to the races. I guess that fits the timeline.... And apparently Randy and his milepoint was a more attractive partner than Seth and his milestalk. @:-) |
mp.com was pointing to points.com from 2008-2010:
http://web.archive.org/web/200706150....milepoint.com |
Originally Posted by oliver2002
(Post 22713734)
mp.com was pointing to points.com from 2008-2010:
http://web.archive.org/web/200706150....milepoint.com |
Originally Posted by kokonutz
(Post 22713839)
Ah. So it was not created in November 2010 as whois implies, simply re-registered?
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That wayback machine is AWESOME!
I was able to see a snapshot of my old goodwinmustgo website!!!! Lol, how funny to think of how angry I was at that guy in 2001. Little did I know that he was a saint compared to the likes of Jeff Smisek. Don't it always seem to go: You don't know what you've got til it's gone. They paved United and put up a parking lot! |
Originally Posted by gleff
(Post 22713387)
I sat there while Seth registered "milestalk.com" himself. (I didn't try to shut down any such conversations as I tend to keep my own counsel, other than pointing out that it could equally be read as "Mile Stalk" which isn't very good.)
At that time all I was interested in was picking up the pieces from Randy's announcement at the moderator meeting in Seattle the week before that he would no longer have a day to day role at Flyertalk The one aspect I still don't understand is why anyone thought that FlyerTalk was so deficient that another IBB on the same subject was needed. I suppose that it was just love of the subject clouding people's judgment. OTOH Gary and Randy have given us some truly outstanding blogs, and I participate there regularly. |
Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 22714650)
The one aspect I still don't understand is why anyone thought that FlyerTalk was so deficient that another IBB on the same subject was needed. I suppose that it was just love of the subject clouding people's judgment. OTOH Gary and Randy have given us some truly outstanding blogs, and I participate there regularly.
Originally Posted by gleff
For me Milepoint was a passion project, coming out of my overall feelings towards Randy and desire to be a part of a community that he would lead...
Originally Posted by nsx
I would have felt a lot better about everything had I known that SanDiego1K would do the job better than it had ever been done before.
But then as the back-story of MP slowly leaked out (admittedly somewhat at my prodding) I felt like the lack of transparency that I thought was FT's biggest problem was not going away at MP. If anything, it would be worse. Luckily, by then SanDiego1K was already winning me over with her more open, accessible management style. So while Randy may have been the McDonald brothers, a visionary with a hot product, and I'll always love him for it, Carol has proven herself to be Ray Kroc, managing the phenomenal growth and 'corporatization' of FT with a lot of professionalism and a big heart. All without being a soulless corporate suit! Either way I wish them both the best, and this is how I view FT vs. MP: http://old.daps.tv/wp-content/upload...0uujo1_500.jpg |
Originally Posted by nsx
(Post 22714650)
The one aspect I still don't understand is why anyone thought that FlyerTalk was so deficient that another IBB on the same subject was needed. I suppose that it was just love of the subject clouding people's judgment. OTOH Gary and Randy have given us some truly outstanding blogs, and I participate there regularly.
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Or, perhaps, Randy got his big paycheck from selling FT, and when IB stopped paying him the additional monies he decided to stick it to them.
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This has all been interesting (and brought up many times before ;)), but how 'bout we get back to the AA portion of the thread :p :D
Cheers. |
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