Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Travel&Dining > External Miles and Points Resources
Reload this Page > How can I afford to travel and how much money I earn from Travel Blogging

How can I afford to travel and how much money I earn from Travel Blogging

Reply

Old Feb 25, 14, 7:22 pm
  #16
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: 7 minutes from DCA
Programs: UA 1K/MM refugee to cheapest business class fare, SPG Lifetime Plat, CBP Global Entry, TSA Pre!
Posts: 43,276
Originally Posted by ingy View Post
You are correct in regards to cc affiliate links. I'm not sure the other advertisers care but the wording will be similar in their agreements as well.
Maybe someday a former blogger will describe in detail how a points and miles blogger makes money and how much they make.

And hopefully that post will contain several images of women in bikinis!
kokonutz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 25, 14, 8:09 pm
  #17
formerly known as Frugal Travel Guy
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
Programs: AA Exec Plat, UA Gold, HH Gold, SPG Gold, Marriott Silver, Hyatt Platinum
Posts: 1,897
Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
Maybe someday a former blogger will describe in detail how a points and miles blogger makes money and how much they make.

And hopefully that post will contain several images of women in bikinis!
I'm sure someday a former blogger will be released from his or her NDA and give all the juicy details and numbers. As for the bikini photos, try the SI Swimsuit edition
ingy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 25, 14, 9:10 pm
  #18
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 29,265
for some of the bloggers their revenue is apparently not a secret
Kagehitokiri is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 14, 7:38 am
  #19
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Programs: UA Million Miler (lite). NY Metro area.
Posts: 14,067
Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri View Post
for some of the bloggers their revenue is apparently not a secret
A couple of years ago, one of the bloggers reported that he paid quarterly income taxes (on his credit card). I forget the amount (possibly searchable on thepointsguy), but I calculated his income to be $250,000. Now I'm not an accountant, so that number may be higher/lower. However you look at it, it's a lot of dough (dollars/pounds etc).

Kagehitokiri, Since this is public, which blogger was sharing his/her revenue?
dhammer53 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 14, 8:03 am
  #20
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Four Seasons Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, EK, IHG, SPG
Posts: 24,684
Look at it this way ... Points Guy has at least 2 full time employees as well as Brian. Million Mile Secrets was advertising 2 full time jobs (with health insurance, to give him credit) recently.

My best guess is that TPG is getting over $1m pa. That is probably understating it given his readership numbers, which are public.

That would only require 30 credit card referrals per day at an average of $100, ignoring all other revenue streams.

Last edited by Raffles; Feb 26, 14 at 8:09 am
Raffles is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 14, 3:28 pm
  #21
Moderator: Delta SkyMiles & Hilton Honors forums
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
Posts: 24,066
Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
Maybe someday a former blogger will describe in detail how a points and miles blogger makes money and how much they make.
Compensation — if any — depends on the business model.

Revenue can be in the form of a set amount per entry; a percentage of advertising revenue; a share based on unique views; a commissions from affiliate partners; or even a combination thereof, as some examples...
Canarsie is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 14, 3:50 pm
  #22
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: 7 minutes from DCA
Programs: UA 1K/MM refugee to cheapest business class fare, SPG Lifetime Plat, CBP Global Entry, TSA Pre!
Posts: 43,276
Originally Posted by Canarsie View Post
Compensation if any depends on the business model.

Revenue can be in the form of a set amount per entry; a percentage of advertising revenue; a share based on unique views; a commissions from affiliate partners; or even a combination thereof, as some examples...
Understood. The mystery is actual numbers.
kokonutz is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Feb 26, 14, 4:12 pm
  #23
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: IAD/DCA
Posts: 29,265
Originally Posted by Raffles View Post
My best guess is that TPG is getting over $1m pa. That is probably understating it given his readership numbers, which are public. That would only require 30 credit card referrals per day at an average of $100, ignoring all other revenue streams.
Originally Posted by dhammer53 View Post
couple of years ago...I calculated his income to be $250,000

Kagehitokiri, Since this is public, which blogger was sharing his/her revenue?
Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
Understood. The mystery is actual numbers.
i thought this was another thing that many regulars know, that is not posted on FT. i have heard specific numbers, and im not part of any of the group discussions off-FT. (like all the deals that are discussed off-FT, that are not posted.)

Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Feb 26, 14 at 6:03 pm
Kagehitokiri is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 6, 14, 6:51 am
  #24
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Watchlisted by the prejudiced, en route to purgatory
Programs: Just Say No to Fleecing and Blacklisting
Posts: 84,409
Originally Posted by kokonutz View Post
Maybe someday a former blogger will describe in detail how a points and miles blogger makes money and how much they make.

And hopefully that post will contain several images of women in bikinis!
Some of the bloggers look good in bikinis, or even without them. Others, not so much.

I'm sort of surprised by the numbers for some of them, but the field is increasingly pretty competitive. Sex appeal can sell too.
GUWonder is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 6, 14, 12:38 pm
  #25
Moderator: Delta SkyMiles & Hilton Honors forums
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Marietta, Georgia, United States
Posts: 24,066
Originally Posted by GUWonder View Post
Some of the bloggers look good in bikinis, or even without them. Others, not so much.
Believe me when I say that you will never find me wearing a bikini...

...and that is an absolute promise.
Canarsie is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 6, 14, 2:36 pm
  #26
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 27
There's no question cc affiliates are the most lucrative but aren't easy to get until you're pretty established. From what I was told directly from affiliate marketers is that Amex expects 20+ apps a month, Chase 100+, Citi 100+, while Discover and Barclays have no requirements. I just started my site flymiler and I have a ways to go but any insight or advice from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
julsdaman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 7, 14, 1:25 pm
  #27
 
restonva's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Reston, Virginia
Posts: 179
Banks with Huge Advertising Budgets

When you consider that the banks are spending big bucks to advertise their credit card products on the Superbowl, the Olympics, the Oscars, etc, its interesting that they also have an interest in advertising in the blogosphere.

Where I think many of the blogs fall down, is by posting what looks like verbatim advertising from the banks, without an objective discussion of the pros and cons of various products.
restonva is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 7, 14, 2:56 pm
  #28
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Four Seasons Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: London
Programs: BA, EK, IHG, SPG
Posts: 24,684
Originally Posted by julsdaman View Post
There's no question cc affiliates are the most lucrative but aren't easy to get until you're pretty established. From what I was told directly from affiliate marketers is that Amex expects 20+ apps a month, Chase 100+, Citi 100+, while Discover and Barclays have no requirements. I just started my site flymiler and I have a ways to go but any insight or advice from you guys would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
First bit of insight - on an ipad, your menu bar runs onto 2 lines.

This is a 'feature' of WP - you need to check how the site looks on different bits of hardware. A line that just squeezes in on a PC can flip over in iOS.

Head for Points, you will see, has a chunk of empty menu bar space next to 'Contact' for this very reason.
Raffles is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 9, 14, 8:57 am
  #29
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: San Diego, CA
Programs: SPG Gold, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 27
Originally Posted by Raffles View Post
First bit of insight - on an ipad, your menu bar runs onto 2 lines.

This is a 'feature' of WP - you need to check how the site looks on different bits of hardware. A line that just squeezes in on a PC can flip over in iOS.

Head for Points, you will see, has a chunk of empty menu bar space next to 'Contact' for this very reason.
Thanks I'll look into that and thanks for checking out the site!
julsdaman is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old Mar 10, 14, 3:08 pm
  #30
Original Member, Ambassador: External Miles and Points Resources
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: 7 minutes from DCA
Programs: UA 1K/MM refugee to cheapest business class fare, SPG Lifetime Plat, CBP Global Entry, TSA Pre!
Posts: 43,276
Originally Posted by restonva View Post
When you consider that the banks are spending big bucks to advertise their credit card products on the Superbowl, the Olympics, the Oscars, etc, its interesting that they also have an interest in advertising in the blogosphere.

Where I think many of the blogs fall down, is by posting what looks like verbatim advertising from the banks, without an objective discussion of the pros and cons of various products.
Social media marketing is where it's at, baby. Lots of bang for the buck!
kokonutz is offline  
Reply With Quote
 


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 9:45 am.

Home - News - Forum - Hotel Reviews - Glossary - Contact Us - Airport Code Lookup - Terms of Use - Privacy Policy - Cookie Policy - Advertise on FlyerTalk - Archive - Top

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by Flyertalk.com. Copyright 2017 FlyerTalk.com. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.