One Mile at a Time [OMaaT] discussions [merged]
#3286
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I think it's fantastic that he has been able to build a career doing something that he enjoys. I hope that as he inks deals with Bravo and others that he is surrounding himself with sound advisors who will help him manage his brand for the long term. OMAAT seems to be be branching toward "lifestyle" as opposed to staying narrowly within travel. That may be a wise pivot, long-term, and other bloggers away from points and miles have been able to broaden their reach successfully.
#3287
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Agreed. Many of us met Ben for the first time when he was still in high school and traveling with his mother.
I think it's fantastic that he has been able to build a career doing something that he enjoys. I hope that as he inks deals with Bravo and others that he is surrounding himself with sound advisors who will help him manage his brand for the long term. OMAAT seems to be be branching toward "lifestyle" as opposed to staying narrowly within travel. That may be a wise pivot, long-term, and other bloggers away from points and miles have been able to broaden their reach successfully.
I think it's fantastic that he has been able to build a career doing something that he enjoys. I hope that as he inks deals with Bravo and others that he is surrounding himself with sound advisors who will help him manage his brand for the long term. OMAAT seems to be be branching toward "lifestyle" as opposed to staying narrowly within travel. That may be a wise pivot, long-term, and other bloggers away from points and miles have been able to broaden their reach successfully.
Query whether even the biggest fanboys think it's accurate to call what Ben does a "career" - rather than "a way of making money for a few years in a way that is completely unsustainable as a career." Lots of kids survive in their 20s doing things they like and getting by. That's not a career.
#3289
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Interesting... i don't see anything other than travel in his life, so hard to see how that's "lifestyle." I don't really see any marketable brand. Wunderkind travels the world for a living drinking champagne is a heavily saturated market. Bravo has far more interesting characters who drink alcohol and consume expensive goods already.
I've long said that the only way a show with recurring characters would be remotely interesting was if it got away from points/miles and devolved into something a bit more personal. You'd have to either have another business pivot to promote or want to otherwise get famous to allow that kind of potentially damaging edit.
#3290
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The last time I turned on Bravo, I didn't "get" any of the programming. I'm clearly not their target audience. But someone is obviously watching that stuff. There have been a few different reality show producers shopping around to try to produce a show about frequent flyers for several years. Some have gotten so far as to chat with them or even shoot segments/pilots. I had a few conversations with a producer at one point who wanted a subject where they could insert artificial drama (missed flights, cancelled reservations, etc.) just to amp up the interest factor. Another was interested in flyers who'd be willing to switch loyalty alliances to fly with/stay with the brand partners interested in helping produce the show.
I've long said that the only way a show with recurring characters would be remotely interesting was if it got away from points/miles and devolved into something a bit more personal. You'd have to either have another business pivot to promote or want to otherwise get famous to allow that kind of potentially damaging edit.
I've long said that the only way a show with recurring characters would be remotely interesting was if it got away from points/miles and devolved into something a bit more personal. You'd have to either have another business pivot to promote or want to otherwise get famous to allow that kind of potentially damaging edit.
#3291
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I don't "get" much of Bravo's programming either, but it's clear Ben doesn't fit into it. Bravo is all about loquacious, image-obsessed people whose areas of expertise take a backseat to their personality and look. Ben's a 26-going-on-40 Kohl's shopper who has the personality of a cappuccino made with airplane water.
#3292
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Ben doesn't have a show on Bravo. He has his poorly shot 45 second videos posted to their website, which is buried into website as travel blog posts (which seem like they are re-written by a social media intern). That's a far cry from having a TV show on Bravo.
#3293
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The last time I turned on Bravo, I didn't "get" any of the programming. I'm clearly not their target audience. But someone is obviously watching that stuff. There have been a few different reality show producers shopping around to try to produce a show about frequent flyers for several years. Some have gotten so far as to chat with them or even shoot segments/pilots. I had a few conversations with a producer at one point who wanted a subject where they could insert artificial drama (missed flights, cancelled reservations, etc.) just to amp up the interest factor. Another was interested in flyers who'd be willing to switch loyalty alliances to fly with/stay with the brand partners interested in helping produce the show.
I've long said that the only way a show with recurring characters would be remotely interesting was if it got away from points/miles and devolved into something a bit more personal. You'd have to either have another business pivot to promote or want to otherwise get famous to allow that kind of potentially damaging edit.
I've long said that the only way a show with recurring characters would be remotely interesting was if it got away from points/miles and devolved into something a bit more personal. You'd have to either have another business pivot to promote or want to otherwise get famous to allow that kind of potentially damaging edit.
someone like Brian could be a more likely candidate because he parties it up and could pretend to be running the business of TPG, which has a rotating cast of eager marketing grads pretending to be journalists.
#3294
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For the record, I have never watched Bravo
Talking about brands...Today we had Ben (or some ghost writer probably) let his readers know how to add the Amex Business Blue Plus credit card to Membership Rewards. Amazing considering it...just happens by following the prompts to add it to your Amex account. And just so readers did not miss it...he (or someone) made sure that the affiliate links was there not once or twice but SIX times! Oh, and because, you know, conversions...had to throw two more card links at it too because some...distracted dude may just go for it in a fit of drunken binge with Krug.
I miss the Diet Coke and pics of the wet towels especially....I could tell apart the LH F from the CX F wet towels...it was....in the texture you guys
Talking about brands...Today we had Ben (or some ghost writer probably) let his readers know how to add the Amex Business Blue Plus credit card to Membership Rewards. Amazing considering it...just happens by following the prompts to add it to your Amex account. And just so readers did not miss it...he (or someone) made sure that the affiliate links was there not once or twice but SIX times! Oh, and because, you know, conversions...had to throw two more card links at it too because some...distracted dude may just go for it in a fit of drunken binge with Krug.
I miss the Diet Coke and pics of the wet towels especially....I could tell apart the LH F from the CX F wet towels...it was....in the texture you guys
#3295
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Today in unawareness/entitlement - in re threats of imprisonment for people who support Qatar in the UAE, no criticism whatsoever of totalitarianism, just a post with no actual judgment, just " Hopefully it’s okay that I still consider Qatar Airways’ new business class to be slightly better than Emirates’ business class. "
Yes, this whole situation is so funny, Ben. All those people who will be arrested or imprisoned are cute, but you like the new lie-flats.
Yes, this whole situation is so funny, Ben. All those people who will be arrested or imprisoned are cute, but you like the new lie-flats.
#3296
Today in unawareness/entitlement - in re threats of imprisonment for people who support Qatar in the UAE, no criticism whatsoever of totalitarianism, just a post with no actual judgment, just " Hopefully it’s okay that I still consider Qatar Airways’ new business class to be slightly better than Emirates’ business class. ��"
Yes, this whole situation is so funny, Ben. All those people who will be arrested or imprisoned are cute, but you like the new lie-flats.
Yes, this whole situation is so funny, Ben. All those people who will be arrested or imprisoned are cute, but you like the new lie-flats.
Seriously, this has an impact on lives of people in the region. But god forbid his royal highness' expectations be compromised.
#3297
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For the record, I have never watched Bravo
Talking about brands...Today we had Ben (or some ghost writer probably) let his readers know how to add the Amex Business Blue Plus credit card to Membership Rewards. Amazing considering it...just happens by following the prompts to add it to your Amex account. And just so readers did not miss it...he (or someone) made sure that the affiliate links was there not once or twice but SIX times! Oh, and because, you know, conversions...had to throw two more card links at it too because some...distracted dude may just go for it in a fit of drunken binge with Krug.
I miss the Diet Coke and pics of the wet towels especially....I could tell apart the LH F from the CX F wet towels...it was....in the texture you guys
Talking about brands...Today we had Ben (or some ghost writer probably) let his readers know how to add the Amex Business Blue Plus credit card to Membership Rewards. Amazing considering it...just happens by following the prompts to add it to your Amex account. And just so readers did not miss it...he (or someone) made sure that the affiliate links was there not once or twice but SIX times! Oh, and because, you know, conversions...had to throw two more card links at it too because some...distracted dude may just go for it in a fit of drunken binge with Krug.
I miss the Diet Coke and pics of the wet towels especially....I could tell apart the LH F from the CX F wet towels...it was....in the texture you guys
#3298
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#3299
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I enjoyed his blog when it imparted knowledge, not his boneheaded opinions. It's amazing to me that a Z-list "celebrity" can be insulated to the point of utter cluelessness. Or maybe he's just a miles-savant.
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#3300
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The key for Ben, very simply, is whether the blog would still thrive if he wasn't travelling, because long term it isn't sustainable. I have no doubt that it is, either with travel reviews shared out among a broader team or the blog simply losing that element of it (which is a small percentage of the articles anyway).