One Mile at a Time [OMaaT] discussions [merged]
#661
Join Date: Jul 2015
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This is pretty common knowledge on FT, I'm sure someone who follows the saga of Ben a little more closely can point you to a source.
I'm honestly surprised UA just stopped at banning him from the airline and that's it. Outright theft of several thousand dollars in services should get a person in some kind of legal trouble one would think.
I'm honestly surprised UA just stopped at banning him from the airline and that's it. Outright theft of several thousand dollars in services should get a person in some kind of legal trouble one would think.
#662
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That holds no significance at all. "Common knowledge" is just a word for hearsay and rumour. It may be true, but unless there is evidence, its bordering slanderous. Especially when you make a comment like your second sentence. You have no idea what the true story is and you should never think of "common knowledge" as fact to form an opinion like the one you have made.
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#663
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Whilst it's obvious that Ben was banned from United Airlines, it could be for any number of reasons. I do think that he should have been upfront about what actually happened (and that he was even banned) in the first place, especially when he is promoting a website that reviews products to help people make travel decisions. If he is unable to review a product, I think he has an obligation to let his readers know. Otherwise, it's like linking a credit card without a disclosure that you profit from it.
Regardless, what did or did not happen is unknown until evidence is provided. Either through Ben addressing the issue (which to my knowledge, he hasn't) or through something like a statement from UA.
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#664
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This is definitely true. However, the specifics are left out and what UA takes seriously is completely subjective. A quote from someone (even reputable) doesn't make a rumour true.
Whilst it's obvious that Ben was banned from United Airlines, it could be for any number of reasons. I do think that he should have been upfront about what actually happened (and that he was even banned) in the first place, especially when he is promoting a website that reviews products to help people make travel decisions. If he is unable to review a product, I think he has an obligation to let his readers know. Otherwise, it's like linking a credit card without a disclosure that you profit from it.
Regardless, what did or did not happen is unknown until evidence is provided. Either through Ben addressing the issue (which to my knowledge, he hasn't) or through something like a statement from UA.
Whilst it's obvious that Ben was banned from United Airlines, it could be for any number of reasons. I do think that he should have been upfront about what actually happened (and that he was even banned) in the first place, especially when he is promoting a website that reviews products to help people make travel decisions. If he is unable to review a product, I think he has an obligation to let his readers know. Otherwise, it's like linking a credit card without a disclosure that you profit from it.
Regardless, what did or did not happen is unknown until evidence is provided. Either through Ben addressing the issue (which to my knowledge, he hasn't) or through something like a statement from UA.
Which goes to your point about his reviews. To me, being unable to review UA and its mileage program, is a significant hole (though it has been occasionally filled a few times lately by contributor Nick). This is a disservice to the reader particularly when it wasn't made known why.
I recall, as I was still sort of following the blog at the time, when OMAAT suddenly fell in love with AA after having carried a flame for UA for years. There wasn't any explanation and it was as if UA no longer existed in the OMAAT blog world.
#665
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At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter what the specifics were since, as stated by UA, it was a serious enough violation to garner a ban.
Which goes to your point about his reviews. To me, being unable to review UA and its mileage program, is a significant hole (though it has been occasionally filled a few times lately by contributor Nick). This is a disservice to the reader particularly when it wasn't made known why.
I recall, as I was still sort of following the blog at the time, when OMAAT suddenly fell in love with AA after having carried a flame for UA for years. There wasn't any explanation and it was as if UA no longer existed in the OMAAT blog world.
Which goes to your point about his reviews. To me, being unable to review UA and its mileage program, is a significant hole (though it has been occasionally filled a few times lately by contributor Nick). This is a disservice to the reader particularly when it wasn't made known why.
I recall, as I was still sort of following the blog at the time, when OMAAT suddenly fell in love with AA after having carried a flame for UA for years. There wasn't any explanation and it was as if UA no longer existed in the OMAAT blog world.
#666
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Virginia, USA
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UA doesn't exist in most of the blogging world anymore (except for "Wandering" Seth). AA has managed to lure over most of them but it'll be interesting to see what happens if AA brings its program in line with UA and Delta. I expect there will be a blogging implosion.
#667
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even if he has 100 free nights, thats 265 nights left in the year
someone said that ben said he charges all clients' award ticket fees / fuel charges and gets reimbursed by them, which is both spend and bonus miles
he buys miles and pays for premium air when sale/mistake
he does 100K on AA every year
if he gets credit card bonuses from cards held by family/friends, which i think was said
he buys miles and pays for premium air when sale/mistake
he does 100K on AA every year
if he gets credit card bonuses from cards held by family/friends, which i think was said
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jul 25, 2015 at 12:24 pm
#668
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He directly responded to this question and said that he does help family members sign up for cards but has never used their miles for his own travel. He stated that in anything he uses his miles to help them travel and not the other way around.
#669
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referral bonuses? not family members but friends?
"majority" - and some card companies may 'ok' certain churners?
along those lines, any relationship between affiliates and churning?
going back to free nights >
free nights are not limited to point awards
point awards can be less expensive awards
"majority" - and some card companies may 'ok' certain churners?
along those lines, any relationship between affiliates and churning?
going back to free nights >
free nights are not limited to point awards
point awards can be less expensive awards
#670
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#671
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You have that right. Then the blogs like OMAAT will need to deal with the fallout. Personally the best info has always come from FT so I don't care if most of these blogs go away. Yours, gpapadop, is an exception, of course. I would hate to see an honest blog go away.
#672
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No, it's not. Look at my join date on this website, I've been around "the Hobby" at least two years before he admits he was. I'm well aware of the history and the version of events of this particular pastime.
#673
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Good on Ben. Makes a living out of what he likes doing. I'm pretty sure I do more award trips in F than Ben, but unfortunately I do it because I have to get somewhere. Great that Ben provides info on award travel to people for whom it would not otherwise be worth it to figure it out on their own
#674
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Good on Ben. Makes a living out of what he likes doing. I'm pretty sure I do more award trips in F than Ben, but unfortunately I do it because I have to get somewhere. Great that Ben provides info on award travel to people for whom it would not otherwise be worth it to figure it out on their own
#675
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has ben changed what he says for annual flown from 400K to 300K?
a lot more, because he also does paid Y/J/F (and award Y/J?)
i think you are right that his blog (and vs others) is mostly F reports, for those who want to read those, whether for entertainment or to compare (not much comparison on blog?) award options, and who like the easiness of it versus going elsewhere for information. i cant imagine any of those readers are liking the new authors. im assuming the new authors are less to increase demographics and more to keep posting/clickbait up for those kinds of statistics.
a lot more, because he also does paid Y/J/F (and award Y/J?)
i think you are right that his blog (and vs others) is mostly F reports, for those who want to read those, whether for entertainment or to compare (not much comparison on blog?) award options, and who like the easiness of it versus going elsewhere for information. i cant imagine any of those readers are liking the new authors. im assuming the new authors are less to increase demographics and more to keep posting/clickbait up for those kinds of statistics.
Last edited by Kagehitokiri; Jul 26, 2015 at 7:15 am