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sbm12 Jun 14, 2013 2:02 pm

Comped trip driving content
 
It isn't often that you see someone admit that they chose to change the content they've published because they were given a comp'd product to try. I suppose we should be thankful he admitted it. At the same time, however, it is unfortunate to see such sponsorship driving editorial decisions. That raises lots of red flags to me.

http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2013/...vice-comp.html

Anyone have other examples of bloggers admitting that they took a comp and let it color their content??

hobo13 Jun 14, 2013 4:25 pm

What's the point of FTG's post if he doesn't give the details? So there's one company out that there is worse than Uber? Is that what we can conclude? Hmmm, I probably could have guessed that. @:-)

ingy Jun 14, 2013 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 20924263)
It isn't often that you see someone admit that they chose to change the content they've published because they were given a comp'd product to try. I suppose we should be thankful he admitted it. At the same time, however, it is unfortunate to see such sponsorship driving editorial decisions. That raises lots of red flags to me.

http://www.frugaltravelguy.com/2013/...vice-comp.html

Anyone have other examples of bloggers admitting that they took a comp and let it color their content??

Seth, one of these days you should learn to try citing facts. I never changed the content of the post. it ran exactly as I wrote it. I made the decision to not name the lesser than company. and another fact, there was no sponsorship involved

many of us realize your life is fulfilled by attempting to stir up controversy. I would hope at some point you'll grow out of that.

but for now, Yawn

Hobo, the point of the post is Uber still gets my business

Astrophsx Jun 15, 2013 4:00 am

I'm confused by the OP. When you say change content are you referring that FTG has been a blogger that normally turns down comp'd products, and the "change" is that he decided to take one? Or, are you saying that FTG changed the actual post?

FTG actually take the time to come on and reply, defend, or have a conversation about the opinions expressed about his blog. So if this is going to be a thread about bloggers taking com'd trips, accept money/points, given handouts, or products to giveaway... that is a great topic!

I'm just not sure if you are talking about changing one's system of now accepting comp's when they did not use to... or if we are talking about bloggers that are given free things or special treatment because of their blog... or if it is about going back to change a post to correctly reflect that something was comp'd.

kokonutz Jun 15, 2013 11:28 am


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 20924968)
What's the point of FTG's post if he doesn't give the details? So there's one company out that there is worse than Uber? Is that what we can conclude? Hmmm, I probably could have guessed that. @:-)

Yeah, that's a pretty worthless post.

It would have been helpful if it helped me avoid an inferior service. But now I will never know which service was found inferior.

As written...waste of my 2 minutes to read it. :(

sbm12 Jun 16, 2013 2:25 pm


Originally Posted by Frugal Travel Guy (Post 20925724)
Seth, one of these days you should learn to try citing facts. I never changed the content of the post. it ran exactly as I wrote it.

You stated in the post that you were going to name them if you thought that they were good and not if they weren't based on them comp'ing the service.


A short while ago I was contacted by a new private car service company offering me a comp to try their service. I explained that I am an Uber guy, don’t get to the big cities often but would make a comparison post if they wanted, but indicated it would be straight up. If Uber beat them out, I’d say so and not have me post their name.

They decided after my results to not have me mention their name and I’m okay with that.
Based on what you've written here it sure sounds to me like you let them dictate that they would not be named.



Originally Posted by Frugal Travel Guy (Post 20925724)
I made the decision to not name the lesser than company.

Why not? Would that information not be useful to your readers?


Originally Posted by Frugal Travel Guy (Post 20925724)
and another fact, there was no sponsorship involved

:confused: You explicitly state that you were comp'd not one but two different rides with them.


I was given a $75 credit and started by trying to get a car from the LaGuardia Plaza hotel to Manhattan. ...
Surprisingly the wait for a car from Manhattan back to LaGuardia was also 30 minutes.

The above are facts as written in your post. Which of them are incorrect??


Originally Posted by Frugal Travel Guy (Post 20925724)
many of us realize your life is fulfilled by attempting to stir up controversy. I would hope at some point you'll grow out of that.

My goal is to provide unbiased reviews of the services I've experienced, without letting sponsors or comps affect the content I produce. But excellent work dropping in a personal attack on me to try to deflect from the content you wrote.

sbm12 Jun 16, 2013 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 20926919)
I'm confused by the OP. When you say change content are you referring that FTG has been a blogger that normally turns down comp'd products, and the "change" is that he decided to take one? Or, are you saying that FTG changed the actual post?

I'm suggesting that he let the fact that it was a comp'd trip affect the product he published by withholding the name of the "bad" provider in exchange for the comp if the product wasn't sufficiently good.


Originally Posted by Astrophsx (Post 20926919)
So if this is going to be a thread about bloggers taking com'd trips, accept money/points, given handouts, or products to giveaway... that is a great topic!

Sortof. My goal for the thread is to point out where comp'd trips (or other things) are involved and show how they skew the produced content, usually in favor of the service provider. This was one example which I thought was a useful demonstration of that effect. If I take a trip and have a bad experience I think it would be useful for my readers to know who the provider of the bad service was, even if it is a freebie to me.

gpapadop Jun 17, 2013 10:00 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 20933575)
If I take a trip and have a bad experience I think it would be useful for my readers to know who the provider of the bad service was, even if it is a freebie to me.

Bingo!

ingy Jun 17, 2013 10:29 am


Originally Posted by gpapadop (Post 20937649)
Bingo!

let it go children. the experience was not bad. the new company just doesn't have enough cars yet. as I have mentioned numerous times in the past, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all prevails here.

but über has enough drivers and comparable service.

both of you should try a new philosophy.

kokonutz Jun 17, 2013 11:43 am

But if I fly on AA's new seats and they suck, I owe it to the FT community to report that fact/opinion. Thats what FlyerTalk and blogging are (supposed to be) all about: helping others find the best product and deal while avoiding bad products/deals. @:-)

HikerT Jun 17, 2013 12:38 pm


Originally Posted by Frugal Travel Guy (Post 20937830)
as I have mentioned numerous times in the past, if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all

Then start living by those words instead of preaching them. More words to live by.

gpapadop Jun 17, 2013 1:58 pm

If I was an FTG reader I would really appreciate to know the name of that company to avoid getting stuck waiting for their car! Because I would like to save some money paying top dollar to Uber because, you know, I am really frugal:D

sbm12 Jun 17, 2013 3:21 pm


Originally Posted by gpapadop (Post 20939216)
If I was an FTG reader I would really appreciate to know the name of that company to avoid getting stuck waiting for their car! Because I would like to save some money paying top dollar to Uber because, you know, I am really frugal:D

It is easy to be frugal and ride with Uber: just make sure you've got that affiliate link out there as much as possible. You won't ever have to pay again so long as people keep clicking. Almost amazing how a post supposedly about a phantom 3rd party company includes two affiliate links for Uber instead, isn't it??

oliver2002 Jun 18, 2013 6:52 am

Ladies and Gentlemen,
this thread has created quite a bit of AMPs from both sides of the fence. I find it interesting that folks who are asking 'questions' that go pretty deep are surprised that the responses (if any) are aggressive. Where I come from, we have a saying that roughly translates into: 'if you step on a snake will it bite you'.

However, the laws of the jungle don't apply on FT, we have the much loved TOS for that instead. So please keep any personal attacks to yourself. Also note that we have mentioned in the guidelines of this forum that questioning the personal ethics of blogger is a no go.

Thread closed.

Regards Oliver2002
Mod EM&PR forum


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