Originally Posted by username

I personally think that if you are this worried, you should cancel the trip instead of questioning why BR has not cancelled all the Mainland operations. You are going to be worried every time you see someone coughing or sneezing and that does not make a good trip.

Originally Posted by evergrn

It's an emotional decision in the end, and I can make that myself. Right now I'm trying to gather facts and see how things go over the next 10 days.

Originally Posted by gengar

Based on your posts in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japa...act-tokyo.html I think you should cancel your trip. You're not going to enjoy your vacation with your current level of emotion on the topic.

Originally Posted by evergrn

Well then you’re misreading my emotions, but anyways I never asked you to judge my emotion or advise me on whether I should go. As of now I’m planning on going (and will enjoy the trip) unless things get really bad over the next 10 days or EVA offers travel waiver for Jpn.

Originally Posted by tya

My advice would actually be: if cancelling your trip last minute wouldn't cost you more than cancelling now, just leave it as it is until the very last deadline, and then decide based on the info available to you then.
Situations on the ground are very fluid and we never know if there will be new (for better or for worse) developments coming up.

Originally Posted by gengar

Frankly, then the purpose of your posts isn't clear - even after the information supplied to you by others in this thread, you proceeded to post multiple times in the Japan forum thread complaining about how Japan hasn't done enough to restrict travel from mainland China. My judgment and advice is based upon your discomfort with exposure levels expressed in these posts, because my opinion is that exposure levels will not be sufficiently reduced for you to stop worrying about it. If you're just seeking people to post nice things to reassure your feelings, that's your perogative, certainly.

Originally Posted by evergrn

Jpn as a destination with respect to coronavirus risk is a different matter. I don't know why you're so intent on referencing my remarks about that in a different forum, but perhaps you should stop trying to follow my posts in another forum and trying to put 2 and 2 together to judge me inaccurately.

Originally Posted by hayzel7773

BR has further reduced PVG, PEK, CAN, and SZX flying.

Looks like they currently will only serve SZX, CAN, PEK, and PVG on the mainland at a significantly reduced inventory + HKG/MFM with no changes. The airline also pulled the planned 2 A333 in KHH; only one is now scheduled to go down in March to serve the JPN routes. Changes are now through the month of February.

The airline is also adding UPK’s, goggles, and bulk loading masks onboard for crew use to enhance safety. Aircraft serving China will be pulled offline after each turn for a deep cleaning. If this continues, I expect to see BR cut additional service or MChina completely.

CI seems to be able to sustain an almost full schedule (this is just amazing but it might be government related).

JX has cancelled their MFM flights till March.

Originally Posted by tya

China never really permits its citizens transit through Taiwan (except leaving from Nanchang, Chongqing and Kunming), unless they have permanent residency in other countries.
So, before the coronavirus outbreak:
CHN->TWN->3rd Country: No travellers holding Chinese passports allowed (unless they have foreign permanent residency in which case immigration officers at certain airports such as PVG usually permit their travel).
3rd Country->TWN->CHN: In theory no, but since travellers using Chinese passports would have already arrived in China when Chinese officers found out, there are no tangible rules to prevent them from doing it, and many have been doing so.

But after the outbreak, Taiwan banned all travellers holding Chinese passports to board flights to Taiwan, so you are not likely to see any Chinese citizen on BR now. I heard some Chinese nationals were asked to leave the plane on a BR flight leaving SFO yesterday. But as others have mentioned, it seems that non-Chinese (including Taiwanese and other nationalities) can still travel from CHN to TWN (and onward), you still have a chance to encounter someone who uses TPE as a stopover when they just arrive from China. They just won't be Chinese national though.

In general, I think the risks/chances is much lower than ICN and NRT but higher than SIN, since the former don't have any such comprehensive ban yet while the latter does (already banning all travellers, even transit passengers, who have been in China within 14 days prior to travel).

Yet, to be honest, you might want to closely monitor the situation. Japan seems to be much less alert than Taiwan this time. Japan was not affected by the SARS outbreak back in 2003 while Taiwan did suffer a lot of economic losses. There had been many Chinese visitors in Japan during the Lunar New Year holiday last week. You should keep an eye on how it develops in Japan and might want to make changes to your plan accordingly.



I can't find any official documents in English yet, but here is a list in Chinese language of who is allowed to enter Taiwan in this period of virus outbreak. The vast majority types of visas are banned/revoked except immediate family member renuion or very limited types of business visas. I admit there is a slight grey area as it doesn't imply returning Chinese citizens using TPE as a mere transit stop, but what I have learned from a Chinese American WeChat group is that there were Chinese nationals asked to deplane on a TPE-bound BR at SFO. I would assume it was a last-minute decision by BR staff that they should interpret the Taiwanese policy as not allowing anyone holding Chinese passports to fly. I don't have any official statements/documents, however.

Update:
Just read this post on a Chinese equivalent of Flyertalk: the OP is Chinese passport holder who lives in Japan and wanted to fly CI from KIX to KUL. S/he contacted CI offices in Taipei and Tokyo and was told by both that Taiwan has also banned transit.

Originally Posted by Cat88L3

Yes, I feel these are the lessons people are learning.... Book directly with the airline. Makes things so much easier if you need to cancel or modify your trip