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  • Agreement has been reached. BR expects to resume full schedule by 20 July for flights out of TPE
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  • In-Flight services are streamlined + no duty-free sales due to reduced staffing onboard
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  • 2019/07/06 - Agreement was reached, full schedule is expected by the end of July
  • 2019/07/02 - negotiation session did not resolve the strike. Strike continues
  • 2019/06/29 Evening - more disagreements during negotiations to hammer out new agreement. Strike continue
  • 2019/06/29 3:39PM - Union announced the FAs voted to end the strike, pending new agreement being drafted and signed
  • 2019/06/29 12:00PM, flight attendant vote to determine whether to continue the strike concluded
  • 2019/06/20 2:09PM, strike announced starting 16:00 TPE Time (GMT +8) on 6/20
  • 2019/06/20 1PM TPE Time: Negotiation Session started and was broadcast live. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjzS5W_LaIM and the dramatic moment is at 1:08 into the video
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773
It's been reported that the labor minister that was present at the negotiations demanded that management make a photocopy of all their documents, and the kind labor minister proceeded to hand it over to the union. Totally not a "neutral" arbitrator.

The company is now filing police reports for stolen passports at the police station and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs is now helping the company issue new passports for those that can't get it back.

A non-union member also posted a screenshot of her facebook conversation with the leader of the union Ms. Liao. In that conversation, Ms. Liao bullied the FA, asking her why she did not join the union, that she was a free-loader, and that she was super "disappointed" in this FA. When confronted, all she could do was cry and say that she was just following up after this FA voiced concerns to another FA about the union. What a joke.
that non-union FA is a free loader, how is she not? You can't expect to not join the union but then enjoy all the union benefits. it's like not joining a club but expect free use of all of the club's benefits
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 12:27 pm
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Originally Posted by gilboman
how? having public support is meaningless as Eva likes to say, they are a private business accountable to shareholders only. Let's see how many affected customers are supportive? the FA have zero relationship or obligations to the customers as the ticket agreement is between Eva and the passenger.

or you mean he's setting up for gov't bailout of Eva where public support is important?

what good is public support? is public going to compensate Eva for the losses? lol
It implies weak public support for the union, which means they're less likely to get what they want, or at least more willing to compromise.
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by gilboman
that non-union FA is a free loader, how is she not? You can't expect to not join the union but then enjoy all the union benefits. it's like not joining a club but expect free use of all of the club's benefits
And who gives them a right to harass a worker like that? The worker never said she wanted the benefits, she just had concerns about the union's action. That was listed out in her screenshots. What happened to safe workplace laws? The union was so willing to talk about that when the January incident happened, but I guess that's out the window now? Why? Because the affected FA isn't a union leader?

I understand you are a labor union supporter, that's fine. But [Moderator edit].not everyone needs to fall in line with TFAU. The union is not a mob. Membership is not compulsory, and therefore, it is her right to join or not to join. It is not the union's right to openly harass and intimidate non-union workers in an effort to increase membership.
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 1:34 pm
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With the busy summer season on us I can only imagine how this can get worse...
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 1:42 pm
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Originally Posted by gilboman
that non-union FA is a free loader, how is she not? You can't expect to not join the union but then enjoy all the union benefits. it's like not joining a club but expect free use of all of the club's benefits
Where was it implied that the non-union FA used union benefits?
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 4:45 pm
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Originally Posted by gilboman
that non-union FA is a free loader, how is she not? You can't expect to not join the union but then enjoy all the union benefits. it's like not joining a club but expect free use of all of the club's benefits
Literal admission here that the union is nothing more than a protection racket. You couldn't make this stuff up.
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 4:49 pm
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A Taiwan news media reported a "good-looking" BR ground staff angrily criticized the striking FAs at TPE by loudly voice: "if you are unhappy to work (as FAs), let me do it!." The news evoked a counter attack from a FA, who posted on FB that she was surprised that the news portraits the ground staff as good looking. She then told the ground staff "Go look at the mirror, you think this face of yours can qualify you as a FA?"

https://news.tvbs.com.tw/life/1154716
桃園市空服員職業工會20日宣布罷工,今邁入第五天,相關戰火持續延燒;就有名長榮地勤日前在罷工現場高喊 :「不爽做我來做!」怒批罷工空服員,不爽做就回家當「媽寶」。對此,有位長榮空服員發文諷刺該地勤長相, 表示看到媒體將該名地勤稱為「正妹」感到驚訝,還挖苦她「照鏡子吧!你以為你這張臉能考上空服 員嗎?」

詳細報導請見: news.tvbs.com.tw/life/1154716?from=Copy_content
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 4:56 pm
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 10:04 pm
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Losses surpass 1B NT mark

EVA Air expects revenue losses from the ongoing cabin crew strike to be around NT$1.07 billion ($34.3 million).

The carrier says in a stock exchange disclosure that it has cancelled 248 flights since 20 June, when the strike began. Other impact costs are still being estimated.
They must be hurting bad now with these out of control losses and they haven't even begun to estimate damage from all the rebooking, they're only able estimate loss of revenue and not other incurred costs yet
​​​yet

But as others say, they have public support so the public can compensate them through tax dollars to show support

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Old Jun 25, 2019, 10:25 pm
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Revenue loss is not the same as loss.....
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 11:06 pm
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Organized till 7/5 for canceled flights ex-TWN.

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Old Jun 25, 2019, 11:18 pm
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So number of FA on strike is now at 2200

https://www.icrt.com.tw/info_details.php?mlevel1=6&mlevel2=12&news_id=1589 73
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 11:21 pm
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Originally Posted by pbd456
Revenue loss is not the same as loss.....
Yes it will be much higher for actual losses as they have to pay OT to all the ground staff and double pay for the FA who remain and all the rebooking on competitors while not getting the revenue
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Old Jun 25, 2019, 11:26 pm
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Originally Posted by gilboman
Yes it will be much higher for actual losses as they have to pay OT to all the ground staff and double pay for the FA who remain and all the rebooking on competitors while not getting the revenue
do they have to pay for the fuel when it is not running the aircraft? do they have to pay salary for the strike workers?

i thought they still keep the revenue when they rebook the passengers? it seems that you are so biased against the management that your response is getting to a point of being nonsense.
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Old Jun 26, 2019, 12:43 am
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It appears that EVA will resume the following long haul destinations from July.

Europe: London and Paris
North America: Vancouver

Amsterdam, Brisbane, Chicago, Toronto and Vienna remain fully cancelled. To be honest, surprise about Toronto.
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