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- Agreement has been reached. BR expects to resume full schedule by 20 July for flights out of TPE
- Strike Information Page:
- English: https://www.evaair.com/en-global/emer/strikeinfo.html Chinese
- 中文: https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/emer/strikeinfo.html
- Flight Status Page:
- Direct link to cancelled flight listing up until 21 July - double check the link below to confirm
- https://booking.evaair.com/flyeva/EVA/B2C/flight-status.aspx?lang=en-tw
- News Releases (Chinese as it is more current): https://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/about-eva-air/news/travel-news/?page=1&filter=Travel+Advisory
- Hello Kitty Services suspended during the strike
- In-Flight services are streamlined + no duty-free sales due to reduced staffing onboard
- Coolfish on how to handle other carriers' award tickets (ticket number does not start with 695)
- Krispykrme's answers on award and codeshare tickets issued by BR and other carriers
- Yoonny's experience with United MileagePlus award redemption
- Partial refund calculation and EU261 discussions
- WChou's wife's experience at BR office near SFO
- Kremmen's experience at BKK on a mixed TG->BR ticket
- 2019/07/06 - Agreement was reached, full schedule is expected by the end of July
- 2019/07/02 - negotiation session did not resolve the strike. Strike continues
- 2019/06/29 Evening - more disagreements during negotiations to hammer out new agreement. Strike continue
- 2019/06/29 3:39PM - Union announced the FAs voted to end the strike, pending new agreement being drafted and signed
- 2019/06/29 12:00PM, flight attendant vote to determine whether to continue the strike concluded
- 2019/06/20 2:09PM, strike announced starting 16:00 TPE Time (GMT +8) on 6/20
- 2019/06/20 1PM TPE Time: Negotiation Session started and was broadcast live. Video at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjzS5W_LaIM and the dramatic moment is at 1:08 into the video
Flight Attendants Strike Vote
#16
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The ground staff are less than ecstatic about all this. They will bear the brunt of the FA's strike, and this will change into another CI situation where the ground crew begin to hate the FA's and working group relationships deteriorate to the point where the unions are pitted against each other.
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5/9/2019
The company released a statement today that summarized their reasoning behind yesterday's memo.
Company states that
The company released a statement today that summarized their reasoning behind yesterday's memo.
Company states that
- Bookings and load factors are already slipping. May #'s show clear disparity with historical trends as well as the trends for this year.
- The company is a private company, not state run. They must report to shareholders as well as their employees and maintain a robust and healthy balance sheet. The suspension of benefits is in response to the lower earnings in order for them to protect the company in the long-term.
- The current trends will cause the company to sustain a loss this year. In line with their corporate governance rules, there will be no bonus or raise for ANY employee until the companies earnings return to a healthy and robust state. A profit does not equate to healthy and robust earnings.
- The union has continued to make damaging and often false statements against the company. In the January butt-wiping incident, the union made several false claims against the company that greatly affected the company's image. The company chose to let that go. If the union continues to defame the company and its employees, the company will begin to pursue legal remedies including monetary compensation for all past incidents. Meanwhile, the company has already filed a lawsuit in Taipei against TFAU after a union member claimed on TV that Chairman Lin was colluding with the Taoyuan mayor.
- The company has begun a crackdown on union activities in the company. The union continues to blatantly flout rules regarding union activities that the company has turned a blind eye to but they will no longer do that.
#18
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They Union leadership is solely responsible for this and should be held accountable for its actions.
The demands are unreasonable, especially so in the the super-competitive, super low-margin airline business.
If left unchecked, the Union will quickly run the company into the ground.
History books are full of such examples.
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I would say it is a lose-lose-lose situation, as per usual, in these economic strikes. The company, the employees, and the customers all lose, especially in the long run. It is only the union leaders who profit greatly from union dues who are better off.
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On Thursday (5/10), members of TFAU met up with government officials from the Ministry of Labor and MOTC to discuss a “labor director” on the board and it’s benefits and how anti-free loading provisions do not affect flight safety. In response to the meeting, the ministry announced that they are not taking sides on anti-free loading but encourage “fair” treatment of all employees. In regards to the director, there are already 3 independent directors required and they do not see the need for more. Additionally, the MOTC announced that they have received a plan from BR and also have their own plan and are “prepared” for this strike if it occurs.
After the conference, TFAU announced that they will not negotiate unless BR retracts the memo sent 5/8 and immediately agree to the no-freeloading provision before anything else can be negotiated. MOL and MOTC expresses their great displeasure at this demand the morning of 5/11, stating there should not be a benchmark for negotiations to start and both sides should seek a resolution immediately.
After the conference, TFAU announced that they will not negotiate unless BR retracts the memo sent 5/8 and immediately agree to the no-freeloading provision before anything else can be negotiated. MOL and MOTC expresses their great displeasure at this demand the morning of 5/11, stating there should not be a benchmark for negotiations to start and both sides should seek a resolution immediately.
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Similar to TFAU’s campaign last year with orange ribbons tied to ID badges (because I Guess orange is labor), Eva Air ground staff have started a green ribbon campaign, in support of the company and its employee relations.
Additionally, BR has informed some corporate contacts that in the event of a strike, they are cutting the 787 and A330 routes first, reducing the multiple frequencies on NA routes (SFO/LAX/SEA), and consolidating flights together for TYO, SIN, HKG, PVG etc.
Additionally, BR has informed some corporate contacts that in the event of a strike, they are cutting the 787 and A330 routes first, reducing the multiple frequencies on NA routes (SFO/LAX/SEA), and consolidating flights together for TYO, SIN, HKG, PVG etc.
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#22
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Today(5/13), Eva Air flight attendants began their strike voting procedures. In accordance with the law, the union has laid out their final demands as follows:
1. Perdiem increase from NT90 to NT150 without changes to calculation time/free breakfast. Non-members are not to receive this.
2. TYO, PNH, PEK, SGN, SHE, HET, and HRB are all overnight year-round.
3. Allow union to join discipline hearings; must be allowed to speak and vote
4. Allow the union to be involved in company affairs; installation of a labor director or a union official on the board
5. National holidays are paid at 2x the normal salary
6. Limit the # of Foreign FAs to 2 per flight (THIS IS A NEW ONE)
7. Allow members and union leaders to take time off whenever they request, no questions asked
8. Any future changes to working conditions or terms shall be made in agreement with the union
Eva Air wished them the best of luck in the vote and hopes for rational decisions to be made.
1. Perdiem increase from NT90 to NT150 without changes to calculation time/free breakfast. Non-members are not to receive this.
2. TYO, PNH, PEK, SGN, SHE, HET, and HRB are all overnight year-round.
3. Allow union to join discipline hearings; must be allowed to speak and vote
4. Allow the union to be involved in company affairs; installation of a labor director or a union official on the board
5. National holidays are paid at 2x the normal salary
6. Limit the # of Foreign FAs to 2 per flight (THIS IS A NEW ONE)
7. Allow members and union leaders to take time off whenever they request, no questions asked
8. Any future changes to working conditions or terms shall be made in agreement with the union
Eva Air wished them the best of luck in the vote and hopes for rational decisions to be made.
#23
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The management seems determined to fight tooth and nail (released measures are 'credible threats', not in the case of CI).
Cost of a defeat is too heavy for the management. I don't think they are willing to back off.
Anyway we'll see.
Cost of a defeat is too heavy for the management. I don't think they are willing to back off.
Anyway we'll see.
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The company has announced via the company intranet that the moment the strike vote is released and if the vote is a majority yes, all FAs will no longer be able to enjoy the benefits of the companies insurance plans, such as workers comp, outstation sickness etc. because they will no longer be “associated or employed” by the company.
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While I think the FAs are asking too much, BR seems to be taking a very hard line.
I guess the question is also how will BR handle irrops caused by the strike. Is it treated as "beyond control" and the passengers are on their own?
I guess the question is also how will BR handle irrops caused by the strike. Is it treated as "beyond control" and the passengers are on their own?
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In terms of IRROPS, the government has announced that both CI, TigerTaiwan, as well as some foreign carriers have had arrangements made by BR and the government in the event of a strike to reduce the impact. It’s also been rumored that BR has applied for a foreign wet-lease via the CAA to operate in the event of a strike.
#27
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Today(5/13), Eva Air flight attendants began their strike voting procedures. In accordance with the law, the union has laid out their final demands as follows:
1. Perdiem increase from NT90 to NT150 without changes to calculation time/free breakfast. Non-members are not to receive this.
2. TYO, PNH, PEK, SGN, SHE, HET, and HRB are all overnight year-round.
3. Allow union to join discipline hearings; must be allowed to speak and vote
4. Allow the union to be involved in company affairs; installation of a labor director or a union official on the board
5. National holidays are paid at 2x the normal salary
6. Limit the # of Foreign FAs to 2 per flight (THIS IS A NEW ONE)
7. Allow members and union leaders to take time off whenever they request, no questions asked
8. Any future changes to working conditions or terms shall be made in agreement with the union
Eva Air wished them the best of luck in the vote and hopes for rational decisions to be made.
1. Perdiem increase from NT90 to NT150 without changes to calculation time/free breakfast. Non-members are not to receive this.
2. TYO, PNH, PEK, SGN, SHE, HET, and HRB are all overnight year-round.
3. Allow union to join discipline hearings; must be allowed to speak and vote
4. Allow the union to be involved in company affairs; installation of a labor director or a union official on the board
5. National holidays are paid at 2x the normal salary
6. Limit the # of Foreign FAs to 2 per flight (THIS IS A NEW ONE)
7. Allow members and union leaders to take time off whenever they request, no questions asked
8. Any future changes to working conditions or terms shall be made in agreement with the union
Eva Air wished them the best of luck in the vote and hopes for rational decisions to be made.
I don't see EVA back off on this, way too much. If vote goes through we may see month long strikes.
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After the conference, TFAU announced that they will not negotiate unless BR retracts the memo sent 5/8 and immediately agree to the no-freeloading provision before anything else can be negotiated. MOL and MOTC expresses their great displeasure at this demand the morning of 5/11, stating there should not be a benchmark for negotiations to start and both sides should seek a resolution immediately.
#29
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The union is using the exact strategy they used against CI. During the CI strike, the negotiation hinged on CI agreeing to relocate the reporting location to downtown Taipei. Nothing else could be discussed until that was changed.