EVA to change FFP from March 2019

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Changes Starting March 5th, 2019 (Travel Date):
RULES APPLY REGARDLESS OF WHEN YOU BOOKED YOUR TICKET
TICKETS AND NEW RULES WILL BEGIN MARCH 5TH ONLINE (TPE TIME) AND AT AIRPORT


Classifications
Longhaul Routes: TPE-United States, Canada, Australia, Europe; Thailand to Europe
Shorthaul Routes: Intra-Asia; TPE-BKK (regardless of whether or not you are continuing onwards)


New Fare Family Names:
Discount - Most Restrictive; Super Saver Tickets
Basic - Current Saver Tickets
Standard - Current Semi-Flex Tickets
Plus - Current Flex Tickets

Fare Buckets Rules
  • Discount: A
    • 0% IML Earnings
    • 1 piece (23kg) or 20kg (by weight)
    • No Upgrade With Miles
    • Change Fee with Fare Difference and No-show fee Applies
    • Non-refundable
  • Basic: D/P/V/W/S
    • Miles Earnings
      • Economy: 50%
      • PE: 100%
      • Business: 125%
    • Baggage Rules
      • Economy: 2pc (23kg each) or 30kg (by weight)
      • PE: 2pc (28kg each) or 35kg (by weight)
      • Business: 2 pc (32kg each) or 40kg (by weight)
    • Refund, Change, and No-show Fee Apply
    • No Upgrade with Miles Allowed
    • Seat Selection Available with a Fee (Free T-48; Free for Business)
  • Standard: J/T/L/Q/H/M
    • Miles Earnings
      • Economy: 75%
      • PE: 115%
      • Business: 150%
    • Baggage Rules are the same as Basic Tickets
    • Refund, Change, and No-show fees apply
    • Upgrade with Miles Allowed
    • Standard Seating in Economy and Seat Selection in PE is Complimentary
  • Plus: C/K/B/Y
    • Miles Earnings
      • Economy: 100%
      • PE: 125%
      • Business: 175%
    • Baggage Rules:
      • Economy: 2pc (28 kg each) or 35kg (by weight)
      • PE and Business Remain the Same
    • Complimentary Changes
    • Refund and No-show Fees apply
    • Upgrade with Miles Allowed
    • All seats, with the exception of Extra Legroom Seats, are complimentary. Passengers wishing to choose extra-legroom charges may do so by purchasing them.
  • New Change, Refund, and No-show Fees apply to ALL passengers, regardless of status.
  • Changes made to tickets with upgrade will use original fare type to determine ticketing rules.
  • Award tickets will enjoy Basic fare type rules, with the exception of seat selection in economy (standard seats are free), change/refund fees, and mileage earnings (no earnings). No-show fees will continue to apply. Service fees will continue to be waived for IML Diamond/Gold/Silver.

New Seat Selection Policies:
  • Cabin is split into three areas for Economy Class; the entire PE cabin is considered Preferred Seating; the entire Business Class cabin is standard
    • Extra Legroom (Emergency Exit Seats in Economy)
      • Free for IML Diamond/Gold Regardless of Fare Bucket
      • $45 for shorthaul; $150 for Longhaul
    • Preferred Seating (Preferred Seating Section at Front of Y cabin and Entire Premium Economy)
      • Free for IML Diamond/Gold Regardless of Fare Bucket
      • Free for Standard (PE ONLY) and Plus Ticket Passengers
      • Premium Economy: $40 for Longhaul; $15 for shorthaul
      • Economy: $50 for longhaul; $20 for shorthaul
    • Standard Seating (Economy Class Only)
      • Free for IML Diamond/Gold/Silver Regardless of Fare Bucket
      • Free for all passengers except the Basic and Discount Ticket Passengers
      • $30 longhaul; $10 shorthaul
  • All tickets in Business Class will continue to enjoy free seat selection
  • All bassinet seats will continue to be blocked and assigned at no charge to those with bassinets. Seating will be made available to IML passengers if unassigned.
  • Star Alliance Gold passengers will enjoy seat selection benefits according to their ticketed fare type.
  • Basic ticket passengers can select preferred and standard seats free of charge within 48 hours of departure. Extra legroom seats are still chargeable, regardless of the time of seat selection.
  • All prices are displayed in USD. Prices may fluctuate in local currency due to currency exchange rate fluctuations.
  • Changes to chargeable seat selection can be made to the same or lower category only. Chargeable seat selections may not be transferred to someone else.
  • All chargeable seats are non-refundable. Changes that result in a lower price will not be refunded the difference. Changes in your itinerary does not guarantee availability of your selected chargeable seat. If unavailable, a refund will not be given.
Change, Refund, and No-Show Fees
  • Standardized across all booking platforms, including travel agents
  • Y Basic
    • Change: USD150+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD200
    • NS: USD 150
  • Y Standard
    • Change: USD50+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD100
    • NS: USD100
  • Y Plus
    • Change: Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD50
    • NS: USD50
  • PE Basic
    • Change: USD150+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD200
    • NS: USD150
  • PE Standard
    • Change: USD100+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD150
    • NS: USD100
  • PE Plus
    • Change: Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD50
    • NS: USD50
  • J Basic
    • Change: USD300+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD300
    • NS: USD150
  • J Standard
    • Change: USD200+Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD200
    • NS: USD50
  • J Plus
    • Change: Fare Difference
    • Refund: USD50
    • NS: USD50
Experience Free Wifi Onboard:
  • On Longhaul Flights Only:
    • Plus in Business Class: 100MB
    • Standard in Business and Plus in PE: 50MB
    • Basic in Business and Plus in Economy: 30MB

Infinity MileageLands Changes:
  • New miles type:
    • Award miles: Miles earned on BR, *A partners (and *A Connecting Partner Juneyao), non-alliance partners, non-airline partners, bonus miles from birth month etc.
    • Status Miles: Miles earned on BR, *A partners (excluding Juneyao). Status miles determine your upgrade/renewal status.
  • Additional Member Seat Selection Benefits:
    • Silver Card: Free Selection of Standard Seats on Discount, Basic, Standard, and Plus Tickets; Free Selection of Preferred Seats on Plus Tickets
    • Diamond/Gold: Free Selection on all seats regardless of fare ticket and bucket
  • Tier Bonus
    • Diamond/Gold: 25%
    • Silver: 15%
  • Green card to Silver Card upgrade now requires 4 sectors as well as 30,000 miles
  • Renewal Mileage Bonus: We place great importance on every one of your flights, therefore all status miles earned between the day after you meet the upgrade requirements of a card tier, and the day before your new card tier takes effect will count towards your first renewal.
  • Changes in mileage accrual and sector accrual
  • Status miles will be based off "Basic Miles", which is the GC Distance between the two points. Passengers with IML Diamond/Gold/Silver will get the tier bonus multiplied to the status miles awarded, but those bonus miles do not count towards renewal/upgrade. Calculations can be found on the mileage calculator.
    • Economy to Royal/Premium Laurel/Business
      - where Premium Economy is not available

      Now/Fare Q/H/M (Future)
      Hong Kong/Macau 12.5K
      China 15K
      Northeast Asia 15K
      Southeast Asia 15K
      Oceania 35K
      Europe 45K

      Fare B/Y (Future)
      Hong Kong/Macau 10K
      China 11K
      Northeast Asia 12K
      Southeast Asia 12K
      Oceania 26K
      Europe 35K

      Economy to Premium Economy

      Now
      China 10K
      Southeast Asia 10K
      Europe/West North America 25K
      Central/East North America 30K

      Fare Q/H/M (Future)
      China 8K
      Southeast Asia 10K
      Europe/West North America 25K
      Central/East North America 30K

      Fare B/Y (Future)
      China 6K
      Southeast Asia 7.5K
      Europe/West North America 18.5K
      Central/East North America 22.5K

      Economy to Royal Laurel
      - where Premium Economy is available

      Now
      China 25K
      Southeast Asia 25K
      Europe/West North America 60K
      Central/East North America 70K

      Fare Q/H/M (Future)
      China 18K
      Southeast Asia 25K
      Europe/West North America 60K
      Central/East North America 70K

      Fare B/Y (Future)
      China 14K
      Southeast Asia 21K
      Europe/West North America 50K
      Central/East North America 58.5K

      Premium Economy to Royal Laurel

      Now
      China 15K
      Southeast Asia 15K
      Europe/West North America 35K
      Central/East North America 40K

      Fare T/L (Future)
      China 10K
      Southeast Asia 15K
      Europe/West North America 35K
      Central/East North America 40K

      Fare K (Future)
      China 8K
      Southeast Asia 13.5K
      Europe/West North America 31.5K
      Central/East North America 36K

      Mileage/Sector Accrual Revision:

      Royal/Premium Laurel/Business
      C = 175% TPM / 2 Sectors
      J = 150% TPM / 1.75 Sectors
      D = 125% TPM / 1.5 Sectors

      Premium Economy
      K = 125% TPM / 1.25 Sectors
      L/T = 115% TPM / 1.25 Sectors
      P = 100% TPM / 1 Sector

      Economy
      Y/B = 100% / 1 Sector
      M/H/Q = 75% / .75 Sectors
      S/W/V = 50% / .5 Sectors
      A = 0% / 0 Sectors
  • Mileage Calculator will be updated irregularly, actual mileage may differ from the calculated mileage.
  • Upgrade miles required lowered for Plus Ticket holders
  • Additional change and refund fees will apply. More information will be given soon.
  • Extra Baggage Allowance remains the same
  • Diamond Card Guaranteed Seat Benefit will ticket into Plus Fares
  • Diamond Card 140,000 for 4 upgrade certificates still apply
  • Mileage Calculator effective March 5th: https://eservice.evaair.com/flyeva/E...alculator.aspx

https://www.evaair.com/en-global/boo...f-fare-family/
https://www.evaair.com/en-global/inf...leage-rewards/
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Old Jan 28, 19, 9:12 am
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EVA to change FFP from March 2019

It is suggested that there will be some frequent flyer program changes for BR in March.

Fare class may determine the miles required for upgrades:

Economy to Royal/Premium Laurel/Business
- where Premium Economy is not available

Now/Fare Q/H/M (Future)
Hong Kong/Macau 12.5K
China 15K
Northeast Asia 15K
Southeast Asia 15K
Oceania 35K
Europe 45K

Fare B/Y (Future)
Hong Kong/Macau 10K
China 11K
Northeast Asia 12K
Southeast Asia 12K
Oceania 26K
Europe 35K

Economy to Premium Economy

Now
China 10K
Southeast Asia 10K
Europe/West North America 25K
Central/East North America 30K

Fare Q/H/M (Future)
China 8K
Southeast Asia 10K
Europe/West North America 25K
Central/East North America 30K

Fare B/Y (Future)
China 6K
Southeast Asia 7.5K
Europe/West North America 18.5K
Central/East North America 22.5K

Economy to Royal Laurel
- where Premium Economy is available

Now
China 25K
Southeast Asia 25K
Europe/West North America 60K
Central/East North America 70K

Fare Q/H/M (Future)
China 18K
Southeast Asia 25K
Europe/West North America 60K
Central/East North America 70K

Fare B/Y (Future)
China 14K
Southeast Asia 21K
Europe/West North America 50K
Central/East North America 58.5K

Premium Economy to Royal Laurel

Now
China 15K
Southeast Asia 15K
Europe/West North America 35K
Central/East North America 40K

Fare T/L (Future)
China 10K
Southeast Asia 15K
Europe/West North America 35K
Central/East North America 40K

Fare K (Future)
China 8K
Southeast Asia 13.5K
Europe/West North America 31.5K
Central/East North America 36K

Mileage/Sector Accrual Revision:

Royal/Premium Laurel/Business
C = 175% TPM / 2 Sectors
J = 150% TPM / 1.75 Sectors
D = 125% TPM / 1.5 Sectors

Premium Economy
K = 125% TPM / 1.25 Sectors
L/T = 115% TPM / 1.25 Sectors
P = 100% TPM / 1 Sector

Economy
Y/B = 100% / 1 Sector
M/H/Q = 75% / .75 Sectors
S/W/V = 50% / .5 Sectors
A = 0% / 0 Sectors

Award ticket rules will also change and there may be numerous fees added.

Source: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/points/M.1548663470.A.215.html
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Old Jan 28, 19, 7:19 pm
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Looks like they are
1. Forcing FF to book top fare buckets for better upgrade rates and mileage earning rates.
2. China market is clearly floundering; might as well encourage redemption there!
3. Rewarding their FF that fly J/C on a normal basis while devaluing the earning for the cheap Business saver (same as PE K!)
4. Further segregating the PE fare bucket system to increase earnings.
5. Encouraging FF to book Y/B in Cattle or move up to PE/J.

Personally, I love these changes since I now earn more with my tickets!
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Old Jan 29, 19, 5:12 am
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773 View Post
Looks like they are
1. Forcing FF to book top fare buckets for better upgrade rates and mileage earning rates.
2. China market is clearly floundering; might as well encourage redemption there!
3. Rewarding their FF that fly J/C on a normal basis while devaluing the earning for the cheap Business saver (same as PE K!)
4. Further segregating the PE fare bucket system to increase earnings.
5. Encouraging FF to book Y/B in Cattle or move up to PE/J.

Personally, I love these changes since I now earn more with my tickets!
I love the reduced redemption rate. Our economy tickets are always in Y or B as they are part of a larger Premium Economy itinerary. When exactly does this start? I have a flight to upgrade on 22 March and would love to access the new rate.
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Old Jan 31, 19, 8:48 am
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Originally Posted by cdp88 View Post

I love the reduced redemption rate. Our economy tickets are always in Y or B as they are part of a larger Premium Economy itinerary. When exactly does this start? I have a flight to upgrade on 22 March and would love to access the new rate.
It's suspected to change from March 5.

Additional changes include ticketing fees, free wifi for Royal Laurel (based on ticketing class), new booking code that has restricted baggage allowance or no refunds.
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Old Jan 31, 19, 9:58 am
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
It's suspected to change from March 5.

Additional changes include ticketing fees, free wifi for Royal Laurel (based on ticketing class), new booking code that has restricted baggage allowance or no refunds.
Any idea what the new ticketing fees are?
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Old Jan 31, 19, 7:59 pm
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free wifi for Royal Laurel (based on ticketing class)
Happy to see this. Will be flying EVA a few times this year. Hopefully it'd apply to I class.
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Old Jan 31, 19, 8:08 pm
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Originally Posted by nexusCFX View Post
Happy to see this. Will be flying EVA a few times this year. Hopefully it'd apply to I class.
Funny statement. I class is the one class it most definitely will not be featured on. Why would free wifi be given to an award ticket?
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Old Jan 31, 19, 8:20 pm
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Any idea what the new ticketing fees are?
Appears to be no show fee of $100 must be paid for no shows before any changes can be made to the no show ticket.
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Funny statement. I class is the one class it most definitely will not be featured on. Why would free wifi be given to an award ticket?
I dunno, ask ANA and JAL why they give free wifi to first class awards. SQ as well in J/F, although the J allowance is a pittance. In fact, are there any airlines that do segment free WiFi on that basis? I would argue that restricting features after someone has flown with you a ton to build up a bunch of miles and finally got to redeem them isn't great for building continued loyalty.

Of course, if it's not included I'd just pay the $20 anyway and they probably know this.

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I've never gotten free Wi-Fi on any of my numerous paid BR flights in Royal Laurel (D and J fare basis). So if they give it, it's *only* to C fares.

Actually I find that kinda chintzy. For example Aer Lingus had Wi-Fi included when I flew biz SEA-DUB on a discounted ticket.
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free wifi for Royal Laurel (based on ticketing class)
I hope not. Not looking for more competition for the already spotty wifi.
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I hope not. Not looking for more competition for the already spotty wifi.
Is the wifi that bad? Have been on CI and JL the past and they are both okay. Maybe it's the route taken?
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Is the wifi that bad? Have been on CI and JL the past and they are both okay. Maybe it's the route taken?
I've only had 1 flight where it's unusable, but it tends to be quite slow on half the flights I've taken (usually yyz-tpe), at least for me. Even loading mostly text websites take a while.
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It has now been announced on EVA website.

Discount fares will received reduced luggage allowances and have seat selection fees.
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Old Feb 12, 19, 12:29 pm
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
It has now been announced on EVA website.

Discount fares will received reduced luggage allowances and have seat selection fees.
Link to the new page:
https://www.evaair.com/en-global/inf...leage-rewards/

I like the basic, plus, and standard fares. Reward those who give you worthy business while maintaining a profitable environment on tickets not generating much.
Surprising change is Green to Silver is now 4 flights and 30k miles!
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