Eva Air Announces Significant Expansion and Changes for 2019
Thanks to the new aircraft coming in, BR will be expanding service to Japan and other Asian destinations as the 787s "partly replace" the A333s and free up additional aircraft. Additional services will be announced in the coming months.
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EVA Air to significantly expand capacity to Japan | Economics | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS http://www.evaair.com/zh-tw/about-eva-air/news/news-releases/2018/2018-11-26-evaair-jpn-flight.html?filter= |
The new service to Japan is great, but I'm going to miss the 2x4x2 A330s...
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CI announces increase of NGO to 2x daily, the same day BR reenters NGO. May the fare war begin! |
Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30472430)
CI announces increase of NGO to 2x daily, the same day BR reenters NGO. May the fare war begin! |
Didn't they only order 4 789s? How can they do BNE, VIE. AMS, NGO, KIX and NRT?
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Originally Posted by username
(Post 30478215)
Didn't they only order 4 789s? How can they do BNE, VIE. AMS, NGO, KIX and NRT?
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It's really a shame the 789s don't have PE. Seems like the perfect aircraft to reintroduce the daytime TPE-JFK flight and other thin North America routes.
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Originally Posted by username
(Post 30478215)
Didn't they only order 4 789s? How can they do BNE, VIE. AMS, NGO, KIX and NRT?
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
(Post 30481161)
It's really a shame the 789s don't have PE. Seems like the perfect aircraft to reintroduce the daytime TPE-JFK flight and other thin North America routes.
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30486021)
North American route and freq. expansion has been suspended til 4Q2019 and BR has already expressed they have no desire to return to the daytime TPE-JFK flight because of high yield pressure and higher landing fees.
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Originally Posted by krispykrme
(Post 30489096)
i really really pray for SJC It seems to me if the day time JFK flight will not resume, they should really do a day time arrival into the east coast for connection and IAD would be perfect. |
Originally Posted by 764toHI
(Post 30481161)
It's really a shame the 789s don't have PE. Seems like the perfect aircraft to reintroduce the daytime TPE-JFK flight and other thin North America routes.
Premium Economy is really not marketable in short haul, and the feasibility of it being in long haul is not very good unless they are like ANA or JAL where they can just rotate the same aircraft on the same routes. Each time the plane is in short haul it's basically an Economy seat for tiered members. I would expect BR wanting more available seats for sale (especially that 789 has less seats than 333). |
Originally Posted by krispykrme
(Post 30489096)
i really really pray for SJC |
Originally Posted by coolfish1103
(Post 30491052)
789 may be too small to operate this route. I don't see BR wanting to go 2 daily at JFK if they cite high landing fees as a problem.
Premium Economy is really not marketable in short haul, and the feasibility of it being in long haul is not very good unless they are like ANA or JAL where they can just rotate the same aircraft on the same routes. Each time the plane is in short haul it's basically an Economy seat for tiered members. I would expect BR wanting more available seats for sale (especially that 789 has less seats than 333). |
Originally Posted by username
(Post 30491638)
I posted on the CI ONT thread that if BR is not willing to make EWR/JFK split service work, would they do LAX/ONT or SFO/SJC?
But to be fair, majority of asian population is probably closer to JFK than EWR. SJC is about half/half. I don't care about PE. Company flies in J. BR7/8 isn't doing well- why not down gauge to 789 and send it to SJC. I would glad take that flight since SJC is like 20 minutes away from my home and office :D |
I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?
Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights.
Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30486021)
North American route and freq. expansion has been suspended til 4Q2019 and BR has already expressed they have no desire to return to the daytime TPE-JFK flight because of high yield pressure and higher landing fees.
Originally Posted by coolfish1103
(Post 30491052)
789 may be too small to operate this route. I don't see BR wanting to go 2 daily at JFK if they cite high landing fees as a problem.
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
(Post 30493505)
I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?
Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights. |
Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30491641)
BR has only done well on PE in SIN, SGN, BKK, PEK, and PVG. This is why these markets maintain PE service. The 789 is not fit for any of these markets as the J count is too low. BR really jammed as many seats into these 789s as possible to move it as close to the A333 as possible, evidenced by the placement of the closets, their galley sizes, and lavatory placements.
Yeah they really wanted the 789/78J to be able to replace the 332/333. VIE was really a 332 destination in the past. We will see if it actually works out with this being the new competing route. |
24 Boeing 787s (4 -9s and 20 -10s)
EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin. Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too. Carfield |
Originally Posted by Carfield
(Post 30503553)
EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin. Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too. Carfield There's more info on their plans in the 2018 outlook thread. |
It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
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MFM also returns to 4x daily from Jun. 7th. This winter it operates 25 weekly flights, and usually in the summer months the evening flights got moved to OKA, so it was only 3x daily.
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Originally Posted by east_west
(Post 30503684)
It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
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SFO drops down to 18x/week during low-season in 2019 as BR continues to adjust frequencies on a week-by-week basis next year.
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30525825)
SFO drops down to 18x/week during low-season in 2019 as BR continues to adjust frequencies on a week-by-week basis next year.
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Aomori route will be launched on July 17, twice weekly (Wed & Sat.) with a321.
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Seattle frequency expansion moved to end of May 2019 (was previously beginning of July).
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Indeed when I booked recently for a SEA-BKK-SEA trip in June I was offered the new flights. The flight numbers are BR3/BR4 if memory serves, which I find somewhat interesting.
I stayed with BR25/26 though. I'm afraid that if 3/4 aren't filled up they might get canceled, screwing up my elaborate plans. |
Matsuyama service starts 18 July, with 2x weekly service on the A321.
Schedule is as follows pending government approval: 0645-1010 47 1120-1305 47 |
When is the first 78J scheduled for delivery?
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News reports say 2Q 2019.
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More expansions coming
Starting July 20., Narita goes triple daily BR184 0800-1225 TPE NRT 789 BR183 1325-1605 NRT TPE 789. Starting Aug 12., Phnom Penh (PNH) upgauges from 321 to 332 (except late Sept./early Oct. ) During May/June and Sept/Oct, BR281/282 Cebu(CEB) goes from 321 to 332/333, also BR277/278 (MNL) goes from 321 to 332/333. During July/Aug, BR158/157 Komatsu(KMQ) goes from 321 to 333 and BR170/169 Seoul (ICN) goes from 321 to 333 |
I've booked BR316 BNE-TPE in J for Jan next year, which recently just upgraded to A333 lie-flat which is still a slight improvement. Hoping for more solid news on the Dreamliner being deployed on this route over the coming months.
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Originally Posted by buffegg
(Post 30853664)
I've booked BR316 BNE-TPE in J for Jan next year, which recently just upgraded to A333 lie-flat which is still a slight improvement. Hoping for more solid news on the Dreamliner being deployed on this route over the coming months.
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Reported in Taiwan's Economic Daily News today:
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Originally Posted by someone0000
(Post 30876498)
Reported in Taiwan's Economic Daily News today:
Given LH has not showed interests in serving Taiwan, I am skeptical if the German side would want to negotiate a new deal with Taiwan. :( |
I'm kind of surprised that they start to focus on growing in Europe before some U.S. cities! Still remembering a few year ago EVA was talking about expanding to BOS, IAD in North America.. Does EVA even have right to operate route to Germany?
With Europe transitions to 789.. Wonder where they will put their 777s.. The only long haul expansion with 777 now is 3x weekly SEA for now. But good news for EVA and TPE for getting some new destinations! |
North America expansion is on hold because of competition basically... JL and HU took all the potential SE Asia transit traffic ex-BOS and KE is too entrenched in IAD-SE Asia for BR to get in.
The European focus now make sense because it is targeting Taiwan outbound traffic, not SE Asia transit. MXP is going to be a good station for BR. Lots of outbound Taiwan tourism to Italy and Switzerland that currently routes thru VIE and now be routed open jaw to work with 4x weekly ops. I think the frequency is restricted to 4x by bilateral because CI operates to FCO 3x weekly. MUC should be a good station too but the bilateral needs to be revised as CI has FRA and each side can only have 1 airline service regardless of which airport. Perhaps the revision is in the works and we just don't know it yet. I think BR will start returning the older 77W when the lease starts to expire in 2 years. They can easily maintain the fleet capacity by retrofitting all the remaining owned 77W with 10 abreast Y cabin. |
Originally Posted by bzcat
(Post 30878455)
North America expansion is on hold because of competition basically... JL and HU took all the potential SE Asia transit traffic ex-BOS and KE is too entrenched in IAD-SE Asia for BR to get in.
I'm also skeptical that there is enough one-way tourism business to Europe for these new routes. NA has overseas Taiwanese, student travel, SE Asia transit, business travel, and Taiwan->abroad tourism. Europe really only captures the last category. |
Originally Posted by east_west
(Post 30878928)
I'm also skeptical that there is enough one-way tourism business to Europe for these new routes. NA has overseas Taiwanese, student travel, SE Asia transit, business travel, and Taiwan->abroad tourism. Europe really only captures the last category.
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