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Eva Air Announces Significant Expansion and Changes for 2019

Eva Air Announces Significant Expansion and Changes for 2019

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Old Dec 3, 18, 8:28 am
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I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?

Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights.

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North American route and freq. expansion has been suspended til 4Q2019 and BR has already expressed they have no desire to return to the daytime TPE-JFK flight because of high yield pressure and higher landing fees.
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789 may be too small to operate this route. I don't see BR wanting to go 2 daily at JFK if they cite high landing fees as a problem.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by 764toHI View Post
I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?

Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights.
Yield pressure is from the overall TPAC market out of JFK. With respect to landing fees, daytime landing fees are significantly higher than nighttime fees, which negates any OEW savings.
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Old Dec 3, 18, 2:30 pm
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773 View Post
BR has only done well on PE in SIN, SGN, BKK, PEK, and PVG. This is why these markets maintain PE service. The 789 is not fit for any of these markets as the J count is too low. BR really jammed as many seats into these 789s as possible to move it as close to the A333 as possible, evidenced by the placement of the closets, their galley sizes, and lavatory placements.
PEK and PVG is only doing well because of slot restrictions, so technically the only ones that are working are the ones in Southeast Asia.

Yeah they really wanted the 789/78J to be able to replace the 332/333. VIE was really a 332 destination in the past. We will see if it actually works out with this being the new competing route.
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Old Dec 5, 18, 8:01 pm
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24 Boeing 787s (4 -9s and 20 -10s)

EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin.

Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too.

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Old Dec 5, 18, 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by Carfield View Post
EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin.

Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too.

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I hope you are just repeating old news. If not, please catch up! Orders were placed 3 years ago!

There's more info on their plans in the 2018 outlook thread.
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Old Dec 5, 18, 9:00 pm
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It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
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Old Dec 6, 18, 7:07 pm
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MFM also returns to 4x daily from Jun. 7th. This winter it operates 25 weekly flights, and usually in the summer months the evening flights got moved to OKA, so it was only 3x daily.
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Old Dec 8, 18, 8:34 pm
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Originally Posted by east_west View Post
It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
however lots of seats on the 787-10 so maybe they will have PE.
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