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I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?
Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights.
Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30486021)
North American route and freq. expansion has been suspended til 4Q2019 and BR has already expressed they have no desire to return to the daytime TPE-JFK flight because of high yield pressure and higher landing fees.
Originally Posted by coolfish1103
(Post 30491052)
789 may be too small to operate this route. I don't see BR wanting to go 2 daily at JFK if they cite high landing fees as a problem.
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Originally Posted by 764toHI
(Post 30493505)
I understand why PE does not work for short haul, but it seems like the sweet spot for the 789 is long thin routes and routes like ATL, DFW, ORD, JFK, SJC would be ideal. Additionally, wasn't there some blow back when BR shifted VIE to the 789 with no PE?
Also, the OEW of the 789 is 86K lbs less than the 77W with respect to landing fees. Is the yield pressure a function of the other daytime TPAC JFK departures? I guess I didn't appreciate the competitive moat JL and NH have built with their longstanding NRT flights. |
Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30491641)
BR has only done well on PE in SIN, SGN, BKK, PEK, and PVG. This is why these markets maintain PE service. The 789 is not fit for any of these markets as the J count is too low. BR really jammed as many seats into these 789s as possible to move it as close to the A333 as possible, evidenced by the placement of the closets, their galley sizes, and lavatory placements.
Yeah they really wanted the 789/78J to be able to replace the 332/333. VIE was really a 332 destination in the past. We will see if it actually works out with this being the new competing route. |
24 Boeing 787s (4 -9s and 20 -10s)
EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin. Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too. Carfield |
Originally Posted by Carfield
(Post 30503553)
EVA Air has ordered four Boeing 787-9s and 20 Boeing 787-10s. The first Boeing 787-10 will be delivered in the second quarter of 2019.
I hope that Boeing 787-10s will come with an elite class (premium economy) cabin. Some Boeing 787-10s will surely be taking over some of these European routes mentioned above, too. Carfield There's more info on their plans in the 2018 outlook thread. |
It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
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MFM also returns to 4x daily from Jun. 7th. This winter it operates 25 weekly flights, and usually in the summer months the evening flights got moved to OKA, so it was only 3x daily.
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Originally Posted by east_west
(Post 30503684)
It sounds like the 787-10s are mainly intended for intra-asia flights. Given that the 787-9s don't have PE, it seems doubtful that the 787-10s will.
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SFO drops down to 18x/week during low-season in 2019 as BR continues to adjust frequencies on a week-by-week basis next year.
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773
(Post 30525825)
SFO drops down to 18x/week during low-season in 2019 as BR continues to adjust frequencies on a week-by-week basis next year.
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Aomori route will be launched on July 17, twice weekly (Wed & Sat.) with a321.
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Seattle frequency expansion moved to end of May 2019 (was previously beginning of July).
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Indeed when I booked recently for a SEA-BKK-SEA trip in June I was offered the new flights. The flight numbers are BR3/BR4 if memory serves, which I find somewhat interesting.
I stayed with BR25/26 though. I'm afraid that if 3/4 aren't filled up they might get canceled, screwing up my elaborate plans. |
Matsuyama service starts 18 July, with 2x weekly service on the A321.
Schedule is as follows pending government approval: 0645-1010 47 1120-1305 47 |
When is the first 78J scheduled for delivery?
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