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EVA Air Pilots(In Conjunction with CI Pilots) Announce Strike Vote

EVA Air Pilots(In Conjunction with CI Pilots) Announce Strike Vote

Old Jun 29, 18, 3:40 am
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EVA Air Pilots(In Conjunction with CI Pilots) Announce Strike Vote

EVA Air Pilots and their fellow competitor CI, have announced through their union(Taoyuan Union of Pilots aka TUP) that they will hold a strike vote between 7/16-8/6. This is the result of 3 failed negotiations between mgmt. and the pilots. The BR pilots have 16 demands that must be met(or if the union determines that significant progress has been made) for the vote to be called off. Currently, 50%, or about 530 pilots from BR, are union members.
Acronyms used(for better understanding of their demands):
DO - Day off
AL - Annual Leave(Given as 1 day=3.5hr flight time)
IP - Inspector Pilot
CK - Check Ride
FRMS - Fatigue Risk Management System(System uses scientific data from NASA and other agencies to calculate the minimum rest, required crew etc.)
FDIS - Flight Data Information System(Similar to FOQA)
FOQA - Flight Operational Quality Assurance(Basically emits all the data from the plane's blackbox, especially safety related warnings/ECAM/EICAS and mx items)

The demands are as follows:
1. Guaranteed 123 days off(not 123 days of non-assignment). Days can be bought back by the company at 1 day=2x salary(Only up to 7 days, the rest can be released by the pilot if they wish).
2. All bonuses(annual, midyear etc.) in the future shall be negotiated with the union. Management does not get to unilaterally decide.
3. Adjustment of per diem from USD3/hr to USD5/hr, hotel quality cannot be downgraded to compensate
4. Training bond hold decrease the year limit to:
EVA Air Fleet Change Training: 7 years
Self Trained/Retired Military: 4 years
Captain Upgrade: 3 years
No change to 20 year training bond for pilots that were trained from cadets to line pilots by BR
5. Retirement fund calculations must include AL/DO days that were given up and the annual bonus(es)
6. Minimum line hours/month for pilots as follows:
  • A321 - 55hr
  • A330 - 65hr
  • 747/777 - 70hr
  • ATR - 50hr or 50 sectors
  • 787 - tbd
Annual leave days and the reporting period prior to flight, rest time inflight, and the 30 minutes post-flight are counted as duty time
7. All pilots operating on national holidays and sacrificed DO/AL days must be paid 2x the normal amount
8. Pilots can request for flight hour and duty hour calculations from the company, the company cannot refuse
9. Foreign pilot acceptance criteria must use either # of flight hours or number of landings performed(currently only flight hours min 2000)
10. For IP/CK, members are able to give a feedback form that will be included in the evaluation results and will be taken into account in the hearings that may follow
11. The captain and pilots, along with airline dispatchers, will have final say on whether a plane will fly. Managers will not retaliate or discipline any pilots for their decisions made in conjunction with dispatchers. *The airline recently upgraded it's satellite connectivity for dispatchers and planes that will allow for better voice communication. Previously, most communication was done through ACARS and through the pilots iPad, the only voice link they really used was for MedLink*
12. The following flights must be adjusted in crewing or layover:
  • BR36/35 YYZ (Change to 4 pilots from 3)
  • BR 56/55 ORD (Change to 4 pilots from 3)
  • BR006/005 (Change to 4 pilots from 3)
  • BR108/107 KHH-NRT (Overnight)
  • BR192/191 TSA-HND (Overnight)
  • BR198/197/196/195 TPE-NRT (Overnight)
  • BR118/117 TPE-SDJ*Sendai, Japan* (Overnight)
  • BR827/828 TPE-HKG (Hong Kong full overnight) - This flight is currently roughly a 6 hour layover, pilots want a full night layover
The company, in conjunction with the union, will use FRMS data to determine the layovers of stations. Previously, FRMS data was internal data only and only those with access were able to view it.
13. Unions will have access to FDIS/FOQA data. Previous FDIS/FOQA data cannot be used against a member in disciplinary hearings. It can only be used for the event that they pulled the data for.
14. Disciplinary hearings will consist of a "Jury", a board of company and union officials that will review the charges against the pilot and then vote on discipline that is appropriate. Union gets 2 spots, company gets 3.
15. Definition of DO is a full nights rest. DO and "duty free day" must be acknowledged as two separate things(currently it is the same). A "night" is duty free period between 22:00-06:00. In order for it to count, the pilot must be duty-released by 21:00 and the next day's reporting time must be after 06:00. Does not affect pilots whose scheduled duty period ended prior to 18:00 the previous day.
16. Starting 07/2018, the Annual Free Ticket(RL Seat) must be a confirmed ticket, not a standby ticket. Discount tickets will continue to be confirmed.

http://focustaiwan.tw/news/asoc/201806270021.aspx

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Old Jun 29, 18, 9:15 pm
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hayzel7773 - I got tired just reading these 16 demands. How soon after holding a strike vote, can they hold a strike, one wonders? I assume in Taiwan there is no prohibition to airline pilots striking.
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Old Jun 30, 18, 2:34 am
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Originally Posted by restlessinRNO View Post
hayzel7773 - I got tired just reading these 16 demands. How soon after holding a strike vote, can they hold a strike, one wonders? I assume in Taiwan there is no prohibition to airline pilots striking.
There is no prohibition against pilots striking(could change with the current stance of MOTC and the CAA). The strike can be any time once the vote is confirmed by the MoL. The CI flight attendants went on strike within a couple days of their vote.
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Old Jul 16, 18, 9:27 am
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Pilot strike vote has started. If successful, the unions plan on holding a joint strike with CI to create the biggest impact. Not sure that will win them any public support or government support though! .

There are almost 1,000 CI pilots(or about 90% of the airlines pilots) and ~500 BR pilots(roughly 50%). There was very little increase in registration prior to strike.
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Old Jul 16, 18, 12:53 pm
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773 View Post
Pilot strike vote has started. If successful, the unions plan on holding a joint strike with CI to create the biggest impact. Not sure that will win them any public support or government support though! .

There are almost 1,000 CI pilots(or about 90% of the airlines pilots) and ~500 BR pilots(roughly 50%). There was very little increase in registration prior to strike.
Last week there was Typhoon Maria, and now a strike to worry about. hayzel7773 - Please continue to keep us informed of developments.
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Old Jul 22, 18, 7:45 pm
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Yes, please keep us informed. I have a flight booked YYZ to SGN in early September. Yikes!
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Old Jul 27, 18, 10:55 pm
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EVA Air pilots now have the legal right to strike, after the strike vote count surpassed 50%. The union will now begin strike preparations, and the strike date will be announced with “ample time” after August 6. The MoTC and CAA recommended to the Premier(aka majority leader) of the government that all public transport strikes be required to give 14 days notice. Both the Ministry of Labor and MOTC will now hold emergency talks with both sides to see if a resolution can be made.

Taiwan law regarding strikes is just like US strikes, a strike vote only authorizes 1 strike, not multiple over a period of time(France, Germany etc). Once it starts, it will not stop until they reach an agreement or until the union thinks it’s not effective anymore(very likely with BR).

Mgmt. has no comment regarding the strike at this moment, though they have been preparing(and contacting wet lessors) for the strike since the vote was announced.
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Old Jul 28, 18, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773 View Post
EVA Air pilots now have the legal right to strike, after the strike vote count surpassed 50%. The union will now begin strike preparations, and the strike date will be announced with “ample time” after August 6. The MoTC and CAA recommended to the Premier(aka majority leader) of the government that all public transport strikes be required to give 14 days notice. Both the Ministry of Labor and MOTC will now hold emergency talks with both sides to see if a resolution can be made.

Taiwan law regarding strikes is just like US strikes, a strike vote only authorizes 1 strike, not multiple over a period of time(France, Germany etc). Once it starts, it will not stop until they reach an agreement or until the union thinks it’s not effective anymore(very likely with BR).

Mgmt. has no comment regarding the strike at this moment, though they have been preparing(and contacting wet lessors) for the strike since the vote was announced.
Any sense of when their strike will begin? Starting to worry about a Sept. 10-11 flight.
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Old Jul 28, 18, 11:22 am
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Originally Posted by hayzel7773 View Post
Pilot strike vote has started. If successful, the unions plan on holding a joint strike with CI to create the biggest impact. Not sure that will win them any public support or government support though! .

There are almost 1,000 CI pilots(or about 90% of the airlines pilots) and ~500 BR pilots(roughly 50%). There was very little increase in registration prior to strike.
The is interesting. Under one-China policy, Chinese government has demanded airlines to put Taiwan under China on their website. Major airlines all followed this order with variance. Taiwanese government can't do much except encouraging citizens to give business to local airlines such as BR and CI. In addition to move Taiwan to formal independence, this political party has tradition of supporting labor rights. Pilot strike is going to put Taiwanese government in an awkward position.
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Old Jul 28, 18, 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by sfo3388 View Post
The is interesting. Under one-China policy, Chinese government has demanded airlines to put Taiwan under China on their website. Major airlines all followed this order with variance. Taiwanese government can't do much except encouraging citizens to give business to local airlines such as BR and CI. In addition to move Taiwan to formal independence, this political party has tradition of supporting labor rights. Pilot strike is going to put Taiwanese government in an awkward position.
Not following. What does this have to do with one-China policy or putting Taiwan under China on the websites?
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Old Jul 28, 18, 4:40 pm
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According to some people I know in BR, Mgmt recently had a team of dispatchers work with crew scheduling and create a “simplified” schedule that could operate with 500 pilots should the strike come to fruition. The airline has also been in contact with multiple lessors should they need to wet lease aircraft and crew. Although the CAA application has not been submitted yet, they will most likely gain approval should they apply(CAA and MOTC are not happy).

The reason they refuse to budge on a lot of the issues is because they overlap with the flight attendants and EVA Air Labor Union demands, which means that if they give to the pilots, they will have to give to the whole workforce. It is not something the airline is interested in doing. Rumors among flight attendants is that the airline may allow the strike to drag along(since only 50% of pilots are striking) and then wait for them to run out of money(no paycheck) so they will come back to work.
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Old Jul 28, 18, 4:43 pm
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Originally Posted by sfo3388 View Post
The is interesting. Under one-China policy, Chinese government has demanded airlines to put Taiwan under China on their website. Major airlines all followed this order with variance. Taiwanese government can't do much except encouraging citizens to give business to local airlines such as BR and CI. In addition to move Taiwan to formal independence, this political party has tradition of supporting labor rights. Pilot strike is going to put Taiwanese government in an awkward position.
Lol what. This strike has very little to do with anything you've mentioned. Furthermore, the strike will probably be solved within a reasonable amount of time. I don't see this carrying on for an extended period of time...
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Old Jul 29, 18, 9:08 am
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Please just start the strike. It gets tired reading this week in week out.
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Old Jul 30, 18, 2:39 pm
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Departing on 20 Aug - will closely monitor it. But I'd rather more worried with the typhoon season instead.
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Old Jul 31, 18, 5:57 am
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Pilots union mulls strike during Mid-Autumn Festival | Economics | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS

Strike could happen around 9/22-9/24 mid autumn festival holiday. Union would give at least 3 days notice.
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