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coolfish1103 Dec 19, 17 7:41 am


Originally Posted by jackson112233 (Post 29191620)
Are there plans to retire more of the earlier 777s as well? It would make sense if there were options to convert some of the 787-10 to 787-9s. If they do fly the 787-10s to Oceania and Europe, then they would probably have to use two different configs, one regional and one long haul.

They will return the leased ones. Next one should be 16703.

Oceania as regional? I think Oceania pax will be pissed :p

kpottermn Dec 19, 17 10:07 am


Originally Posted by hayzel7773 (Post 29181949)

There are currently no plans for 10-across conversions.

What about cabin refreshes for RL to match the new 77Bs? They were really playing up the "new look" last month.

east_west Dec 19, 17 6:01 pm


Originally Posted by jackson112233 (Post 29191620)
Are there plans to retire more of the earlier 777s as well? It would make sense if there were options to convert some of the 787-10 to 787-9s. If they do fly the 787-10s to Oceania and Europe, then they would probably have to use two different configs, one regional and one long haul.

The original announcement said that the 787 deliveries would start in 2017 and run through 2022 (presumably Boeing delays have pushed this back a year or so). This timeline would coincide with ~12 777-300 and 3 A330-200 frames hitting the 12-15 year mark, which is when BR seems to retire wide-body frames. So about half of the 26 deliveries could be normal fleet refresh.

hayzel7773 Dec 19, 17 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by east_west (Post 29194955)
The original announcement said that the 787 deliveries would start in 2017 and run through 2022 (presumably Boeing delays have pushed this back a year or so). This timeline would coincide with ~12 777-300 and 3 A330-200 frames hitting the 12-15 year mark, which is when BR seems to retire wide-body frames. So about half of the 26 deliveries could be normal fleet refresh.

They need sufficient 787 aircraft(with ETOPS and enough crew training hours) before they can retire the A332. Currently, A332 is the only plane that can make it to BNE(777 is not economical).

krispykrme Dec 23, 17 5:26 am

CI has remove CI15/16 from schedule and revert CI3/4 back to 777. A net loss of around 600 seats to SFO.

Wondering how BR 7/8 load factor is. Perhaps we may see three daily to SFO once 787-9 is delivered. 1x787-9 and 2x 77W could work well. Perhaps may be sending 787-9 to SJC would be good.

flyingeverywhere1 Dec 23, 17 6:14 am


Originally Posted by coolfish1103 (Post 29192259)
They will return the leased ones. Next one should be 16703.

Oceania as regional? I think Oceania pax will be pissed :p

I think b-16703 lease is extended to 2024 so EVA might maintain 34 777-300ER for a while.. a330-200 could be gone if they find ways to get rid of them since they own it.

Transpacificflyer Dec 29, 17 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by flyingeverywhere1 (Post 29180385)
I remember they were considering Mumbai/New Delhi launch in 2016 but it never happened... so don't know if it's still on the list..

EVA is too premium and "expensive" for those routes. Best to leave it to the carriers who specialize in low end price sensitive markets.

kpottermn Jan 25, 18 1:56 pm

Are their last A330-200s sticking around for a while? Thought they were on the way out but my TPE-CGK flight in September just swapped from a -300 to an ancient -200.

hayzel7773 Jan 25, 18 7:51 pm


Originally Posted by kpottermn (Post 29339327)
Are their last A330-200s sticking around for a while? Thought they were on the way out but my TPE-CGK flight in September just swapped from a -300 to an ancient -200.

Yes. It's the only aircraft that is able to operate the BNE route(specially designed last two center rows of Economy for crew rest). They only have 3(I think?) left. They'll be gone when 787s come in.

flyingeverywhere1 Jan 26, 18 7:30 am

I'm also wondering when will EVA (or China airlines) get to add more PVG/SHA flights... They are adding more flights to China, but just not being able to add any shanghai ones.

kpottermn Jan 26, 18 7:32 am


Originally Posted by hayzel7773 (Post 29340587)
Yes. It's the only aircraft that is able to operate the BNE route(specially designed last two center rows of Economy for crew rest). They only have 3(I think?) left. They'll be gone when 787s come in.

Yes they have 3, and I knew the BNE route was the primary factor. CGK just seems like an ugly stepchild route where they'll throw on whatever is available.

bzcat Jan 26, 18 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by flyingeverywhere1 (Post 29342063)
I'm also wondering when will EVA (or China airlines) get to add more PVG/SHA flights... They are adding more flights to China, but just not being able to add any shanghai ones.

PVG/SHA faces two problems... overall China frequency allocated to each airline, and local airport slot restrictions. I don't think this will change for a while.

hayzel7773 Feb 12, 18 11:34 am

BR increases TSA-HGH(2 to 4 weekly), TSA-TSN(1 to 2 weekly), and TPE-NKG(2 to 4 weekly) in S18.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...lights-in-s18/

krispykrme Feb 13, 18 2:02 am


Originally Posted by hayzel7773 (Post 29408887)
BR increases TSA-HGH(2 to 4 weekly), TSA-TSN(1 to 2 weekly), and TSA-NKG(2 to 4 weekly) in S18.

https://www.routesonline.com/news/38...lights-in-s18/

actually itís tpe to nkg.

hayzel7773 Feb 13, 18 9:21 am


Originally Posted by krispykrme (Post 29410875)


actually itís tpe to nkg.

my mistake.


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