Star member on Uni Air flight operated by EVA Air
Dec 28, 2016, 6:29 pm
#1
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Star member on Uni Air flight operated by EVA Air
This may be an archaic question but I still want to check. I am looking into flying to Fuzhou from Taipei next summer. And as we know quite a number of secondary Chinese cities are served by BR and CI's subsidiaries (using two entities in an effort to acquire more traffic rights from the regulators), my flight to Fuzhou will happened to be an Uni Air B7-coded flight operated by Eva Air.
I am TK *G, but since it's Uni Air-coded, that means I will enjoy no Star Gold benefits at all, correct?
Just want to double check.
I am TK *G, but since it's Uni Air-coded, that means I will enjoy no Star Gold benefits at all, correct?
Just want to double check.
Dec 28, 2016, 7:33 pm
#2
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This may be an archaic question but I still want to check. I am looking into flying to Fuzhou from Taipei next summer. And as we know quite a number of secondary Chinese cities are served by BR and CI's subsidiaries (using two entities in an effort to acquire more traffic rights from the regulators), my flight to Fuzhou will happened to be an Uni Air B7-coded flight operated by Eva Air.
I am TK *G, but since it's Uni Air-coded, that means I will enjoy no Star Gold benefits at all, correct? Just want to double check.
I am TK *G, but since it's Uni Air-coded, that means I will enjoy no Star Gold benefits at all, correct?
Just want to double check.
Dec 28, 2016, 8:19 pm
#3
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One does not get Star Alliance benefits if flying on MI even with an SQ flight number.
I see you're BR Diamond, I'm sure you get BR benefits when flying B7 (since they are sharing the same program like how SQ/MI works). However, I don't believe you would get Star Alliance benefits if you were any other member (TK Gold, etc).
Dec 29, 2016, 11:16 am
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Though *A rules do not grant you such access, BR rules specifically state that *A status applies to UNI operated flights. Even *A silver applies at BR silver level.
If it was a codeshare on non UNI metal, that would make your status worthless despite a BR flight number.
How that works in the real world is another question.
If it was a codeshare on non UNI metal, that would make your status worthless despite a BR flight number.
How that works in the real world is another question.
Dec 30, 2016, 2:31 am
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Though *A rules do not grant you such access, BR rules specifically state that *A status applies to UNI operated flights. Even *A silver applies at BR silver level.
If it was a codeshare on non UNI metal, that would make your status worthless despite a BR flight number.
How that works in the real world is another question.
If it was a codeshare on non UNI metal, that would make your status worthless despite a BR flight number.
How that works in the real world is another question.
Dec 30, 2016, 10:24 am
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http://www.evaair.com/en-global/infi...nd-privileges/
and my interpretation of that is it says BR Silver = *A Silver, BR Gold = *A Gold and BR Diamond = *A Gold and that BR Silver/Gold/Diamond get benefits on B7. It does not say what benefits *A Silver and Gold have on BR or B7.
My logic is that it would not say "(Star Alliance Gold Card)" under both Gold and Diamond if it meant *A Gold get the benefits.
So, if a non-BR *A member flies on B7 ticketed and operated flights, there is no benefit according to my logic. The gray area now is OP has a B7 ticket operated by BR...
Last edited by username; Dec 30, 2016 at 10:16 pm
Dec 30, 2016, 2:40 pm
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Does BR even fly this?
Dec 30, 2016, 7:34 pm
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I am not sure where you saw this. My guess is:
http://www.evaair.com/en-global/infi...nd-privileges/
and my interpretation of that is it says BR Silver = *A Silver, BR Gold = *A Gold and BR Diamond = *A Diamond and that BR Silver/Gold/Diamond get benefits on B7. It does not say what benefits *A Silver and Gold have on BR or B7.
My logic is that it would not say "(Star Alliance Gold Card)" under both Gold and Diamond if it meant *A Gold get the benefits.
So, if a non-BR *A member flies on B7 ticketed and operated flights, there is no benefit according to my logic. The gray area now is OP has a B7 ticket operated by BR...
http://www.evaair.com/en-global/infi...nd-privileges/
and my interpretation of that is it says BR Silver = *A Silver, BR Gold = *A Gold and BR Diamond = *A Diamond and that BR Silver/Gold/Diamond get benefits on B7. It does not say what benefits *A Silver and Gold have on BR or B7.
My logic is that it would not say "(Star Alliance Gold Card)" under both Gold and Diamond if it meant *A Gold get the benefits.
So, if a non-BR *A member flies on B7 ticketed and operated flights, there is no benefit according to my logic. The gray area now is OP has a B7 ticket operated by BR...
Dec 30, 2016, 10:29 pm
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It seems that flight is coded and operated by B7. It does not seem BR and B7 codeshare any flights to Mainland looking at the time table. They do cross-lease aircraft to operate certain routes. It is all a shell game to get more routes when the government distributes traffic rights.
I am still trying to figure out how you concluded that *A members get benefits on B7 flights.
Last edited by username; Dec 30, 2016 at 10:42 pm
Dec 31, 2016, 2:51 am
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It seems we are all sloppy and wrong
It seems that flight is coded and operated by B7. It does not seem BR and B7 codeshare any flights to Mainland looking at the time table. They do cross-lease aircraft to operate certain routes. It is all a shell game to get more routes when the government distributes traffic rights.
I am still trying to figure out how you concluded that *A members get benefits on B7 flights.
It seems that flight is coded and operated by B7. It does not seem BR and B7 codeshare any flights to Mainland looking at the time table. They do cross-lease aircraft to operate certain routes. It is all a shell game to get more routes when the government distributes traffic rights.
I am still trying to figure out how you concluded that *A members get benefits on B7 flights.
The only reason there is AE and B7 is because they discovered a loophole that allowed them to use their codes to get more air rights.
Dec 31, 2016, 9:28 am
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Yeah, it seems B7 sells only domestic tickets on their own website and BR sells B7 international and cross-strait flights. However, those flights are still coded as B7 and I am still wondering how you concluded that *A members get benefits on B7 flights.
Dec 31, 2016, 9:40 am
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Maybe I'm wrong but last time i flew a B7 flight, I received all the benefits a *G would get.