EVA goes 10 abreast 777

Old Jul 9, 16, 8:12 pm
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The Taiwanese newspapers are reporting that:

1 - this is a trial basis for 1 aircraft to be delivered in September - of course, we know where things go from here...

2 - this decision was made a year ago when they ordered the new 77Ws

3 - it says 20 more seats per aircraft - aren't there more than 20 rows in Y?

http://udn.com/news/story/7241/18120...95%86%E6%A9%9F
Based on comparison with 77A (333-seater) Row 45 - 69 will be 3-4-3, instead of 3-3-3. Row 70-73 is 2-4-2, instead of 3-3-3.

The claim of "trial basis" is somewhat nonsense.
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Old Jul 9, 16, 10:37 pm
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Originally Posted by username View Post
The Taiwanese newspapers are reporting that:

1 - this is a trial basis for 1 aircraft to be delivered in September - of course, we know where things go from here...
Well to give them the benefit of the doubt... when NH took delivery of their 10-abreast 77Ws they put them on their "shorter" TPAC routes (LAX/SFO/SEA, although they sometimes do appear on JFK/IAD/ORD which is a pain) but then the next and most recent batch of 77Ws went back to 2-4-3 in Y. And the 10-abreast 77Ws are now still mainly flying NRT-US West Coast routes.

So we might possibly see the same happening with BR; but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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Old Jul 10, 16, 12:35 am
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Originally Posted by jimyvr View Post
Based on comparison with 77A (333-seater) Row 45 - 69 will be 3-4-3, instead of 3-3-3. Row 70-73 is 2-4-2, instead of 3-3-3.

The claim of "trial basis" is somewhat nonsense.
I suspected the missing seats had to come from the tail.

But that imply row 70 might be a decent choice if you are forced to fly this 777ET (ET for Extra Tight).
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Old Jul 31, 16, 8:30 pm
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it's official
https://www.evaair.com/Images/b2c/fleetmap/77W-353.jpg

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Old Aug 1, 16, 10:43 am
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After KE, AF, KL, LX, CI (for my own safety's reason) and also for 10 abreast, and 787's also on no fly list, running out of options...
KE is still fully 9-abreast. So is CA.


I'd much rather have extra seat pitch than width- there's just more usable/habitable space for legs and items. Much of the rhetoric around seat width is from a certain aircraft manufacturer's marketing- that magical single inch won't determine whether you suddenly feel cramped or borderline comfortable.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 11:34 am
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Originally Posted by Enhancements View Post
KE is still fully 9-abreast. So is CA.


I'd much rather have extra seat pitch than width- there's just more usable/habitable space for legs and items. Much of the rhetoric around seat width is from a certain aircraft manufacturer's marketing- that magical single inch won't determine whether you suddenly feel cramped or borderline comfortable.
Everybody is different, but I disagree strongly.

I can survive TPAC on BR's 2-4-2 PE seating. If I was in the back (3-3-3), I would almost certainly be arriving in physical pain from having to force my arms in to my body. Sometimes happens to me on shorter flights.

3-4-3? I would walk of the plane.

Room is not fungible. Having place to put some random crap does not make up for the fact that the width is far narrower than my natural elbow-to-elbow width.

As CI jumps ahead of BR with their newest metal, BR slips backwards.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by Enhancements View Post
KE is still fully 9-abreast. So is CA.
CA will begin 10-abreast economy 777-300ER service in NW16/17 season.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 1:19 pm
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Indeed, I meant KL, not KE.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 5:10 pm
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Additional bad news, 10 abreast extending to more routes

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...or-w16-update/
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Old Aug 1, 16, 9:33 pm
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The fact CI went 3-4-3 on the 77W made it an no brainer for BR to follow.

Think on the bright side that's why they have PE.

CA going 10 abreast is just an disaster because they have E+ not PE. Unless you fly J, it will be as tight as LH's slim seats on their longhauls.
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Old Aug 1, 16, 9:40 pm
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For those who think 3-4-3 is OK: average male shoulder width is apparently 17-18 inches. Yes, the average is larger than the width of these new seats. Guess what happens when you have 3-4 average males sitting side by side? Never mind personal space, we just don't fit without contorting ourselves.
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Old Aug 3, 16, 1:56 pm
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Originally Posted by erics2356 View Post
Additional bad news, 10 abreast extending to more routes

http://www.routesonline.com/news/38/...or-w16-update/
oh man, if SFO <--> TPE is going 10 abreasted, im sure LAX <--> TPE route will go the same too... :\
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Old Aug 4, 16, 8:19 am
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Originally Posted by jimyvr View Post
CA will begin 10-abreast economy 777-300ER service in NW16/17 season.
CX still 9...no? AC went to 10 also...yikes.
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Old Aug 4, 16, 9:30 pm
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Originally Posted by mkjr View Post
CX still 9...no? AC went to 10 also...yikes.
CX 10 abreast is coming soon. Enjoy it while it lasts.
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Old Aug 8, 16, 1:07 pm
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Originally Posted by payam81 View Post
CX 10 abreast is coming soon. Enjoy it while it lasts.
is this confirmed?
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