EVA Air - Business Seat Question on 77W

Old Dec 24, 13, 9:01 am
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EVA Air - Business Seat Question on 77W

Good morning,

I'm hoping someone can help me answer a question.

I'm looking to fly J (Business) on Eva Air next November. Two of the Legs (LAX-TPE) and (TPE-BKK) will be on a 777-300ER (77W).

Looking at Seatguru, it shows Eva to have 2 versions of the 77W in service. One has Angled Lie Flat Business Seats and the other has 180 degree Flat Bed Business Seats.

As you can imagine, I'd much much prefer the completely lie flat seats, especially on the LAX-TPE sector.

Can anyone tell me which version they use on these legs? Is it always the same or do they rotate in different configuration?

Thanks for your Help,

Chris
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Old Dec 24, 13, 9:09 am
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Originally Posted by cslovacek View Post
Good morning,

I'm hoping someone can help me answer a question.

I'm looking to fly J (Business) on Eva Air next November. Two of the Legs (LAX-TPE) and (TPE-BKK) will be on a 777-300ER (77W).

Looking at Seatguru, it shows Eva to have 2 versions of the 77W in service. One has Angled Lie Flat Business Seats and the other has 180 degree Flat Bed Business Seats.

As you can imagine, I'd much much prefer the completely lie flat seats, especially on the LAX-TPE sector.

Can anyone tell me which version they use on these legs? Is it always the same or do they rotate in different configuration?

Thanks for your Help,

Chris
Seatguru ist outdated. All TPE-LAX 773 have the new Royal Laurel (lie flat).
If the TPE-BKK sector is on 773 they have Royal Laurel as well since they continue from BKK-AMS/LHR. But if it's a 332 or 333 its angled.
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Old Dec 24, 13, 9:28 am
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There will be two versions of 77W operating by next November, but they are both Royal Laurel so you shouldn't have any problems.

39J/56EY/238Y
38J/63EY/211Y
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Old Dec 24, 13, 12:20 pm
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post
There will be two versions of 77W operating by next November, but they are both Royal Laurel so you shouldn't have any problems.

39J/56EY/238Y
38J/63EY/211Y
Kind of OT here, but any details on that new configuration? Does not look good from just the numbers. Hopefully the damage was in Y, not Elite. [Sorry to Y flyers, but I care about my seats].

I assume the one extra RL seat takes out a closet, lav or such.

But one less Elite row, and 3 more Y rows does not add. Somebody loses an inch or so somewhere.
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Old Dec 25, 13, 12:34 am
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Ouch. I would think they would be increasing Elite, not reducing it.

I can't picture how they will do this. My guess is Y pitch will be reduced.

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Originally Posted by exwannabe View Post
Kind of OT here, but any details on that new configuration? Does not look good from just the numbers. Hopefully the damage was in Y, not Elite. [Sorry to Y flyers, but I care about my seats].

I assume the one extra RL seat takes out a closet, lav or such.

But one less Elite row, and 3 more Y rows does not add. Somebody loses an inch or so somewhere.
I tried couple tools to search but most of them won't show me seat maps and only tells me to go at Airport Check-In (like ExpertFlyer). I did not have access to KVS tools so if someone has it maybe can try.

The 77W will be in two versions. They are named 77N and 77A.

77N: 38J/63EY/211Y
77A: 39J/56EY/238Y

77A will be in operation on LAX starting from May 5, 2014.
- On flight BR 0002 1/4/6 between 05MAY14 - 03JUN14
- On flight BR 0001 2/5/7 between 06MAY14 - 04JUN14
- On flight BR 0011/12 2/3/4/5/6 between 03JUN14 - 28MAR15

77A will be in operation on JFK starting from June 4, 2014.
- On flight BR 0032 1/7 between 04JUN14 - 02JUL14
- On flight BR 0031 1/2 between 05JUN14 - 03JUL14
- On flight BR 0032 1/2/4/6/7 between 03JUL14 - 28MAR15
- On flight BR 0031 1/2/3/5/7 between 04JUL14 - 28MAR15

I think they probably just took down one of the cabinets and placed another seat on the aisle for Royal Laurel. For Elite they probably just took down the first row and increase the seat pitch to 39-40" overall and place proper baby bassinets. Economy I am thinking they probably either went with 31-32" pitch and slot in 1 row in Zone 3 and 2 rows in Zone 4 (maybe move around the lavatory and galley) for three rows worth of 9 seats = 27 or they went with 3-4-3 like Emirates and kept the 33" (by increasing a seat in every row up to row 68 and increased the reduced 2-3-2 seats in row 57 to 3-4-3 and row 69 to 3-3-3 at the end of the cabin).

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Old Dec 25, 13, 12:32 pm
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Wow, I was hoping maybe the 77A would be used for regional routes (e.g. PVG, PEK) where higher capacity is needed. The fact that it is on 2 of the longer routes is not a good sign.

I find that box under the Y seat really bad for extending your legs. If they make it 31, ouch. Making it 10 across would also be bad - they would have to replace almost all the seats, not just the center ones, right?

Then I guess decreasing Elite = increasing the price differential... Hopefully that also makes space for the passenger to walk from one aisle to another within the cabin.
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Old Jan 12, 14, 7:59 pm
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Looking for recs on seats on the 77A in Royal Laurel class. My flight has a 7K seat. I'd imagine that wouldn't be a good seat because of the galley/bathroom. Do people think the forward cabin is better than the rear section of Royal Laurel?
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Old Jan 13, 14, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by clintonuws View Post
Looking for recs on seats on the 77A in Royal Laurel class. My flight has a 7K seat. I'd imagine that wouldn't be a good seat because of the galley/bathroom. Do people think the forward cabin is better than the rear section of Royal Laurel?
I was in 1A and liked it as the galley is behind and there is not much traffic to the front as most ppl also use the lavatory next to the galley.

I think the last row in the front cabin is the worst as it is very close to the toilet. The second cabin is not too bad but I would try and get a seat in the front cabin as you also get the food faster and can go to sleep.
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Old Jan 17, 14, 5:59 am
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Agree, I was in 1A on LHR-BKK-TPE a couple of weeks back. No problem. 1K day after tomorrow on TPE-BKK-LHR. Will report back.
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Old Jan 19, 14, 5:28 am
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Originally Posted by clintonuws View Post
... My flight has a 7K seat. I'd imagine that wouldn't be a good seat because of the galley/bathroom. ...
I have flown in all of 5K, 6K and 7K. I was initially disappointed to be allocated 7K on one leg, for your stated reasons. However I found that seat totally fine. The BR plane is really quite spacious and 7K is far enough from the rest room for that to be not inconvenient. Certainly the front cabin seems better to me.
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Old Feb 9, 14, 7:46 am
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103 View Post

77A will be in operation on JFK starting from June 4, 2014.
- On flight BR 0032 1/7 between 04JUN14 - 02JUL14
- On flight BR 0031 1/2 between 05JUN14 - 03JUL14
- On flight BR 0032 1/2/4/6/7 between 03JUL14 - 28MAR15
- On flight BR 0031 1/2/3/5/7 between 04JUL14 - 28MAR15
Can someone please explain what the "1/2/4/6/7" means?

If my assumptions are correct, it means the day of the week? So would the "1" equal a Sunday or Monday?

Many thanks!
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Old Feb 9, 14, 8:38 am
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Can someone please explain what the "1/2/4/6/7" means?

If my assumptions are correct, it means the day of the week? So would the "1" equal a Sunday or Monday?

Many thanks!
Yes, it's day of week

1 would be Monday, 7 is Sunday

and if it's exclusion I think it's x2/3/5 (=1/4/6/7)
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Old Feb 9, 14, 11:37 am
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Originally Posted by jerryhung View Post
Yes, it's day of week

1 would be Monday, 7 is Sunday

and if it's exclusion I think it's x2/3/5 (=1/4/6/7)
Great, thanks!
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Old Feb 17, 14, 12:31 am
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See http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/other...00-er-77n.html for the new 77A seating chart.
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