1st or 2nd class train travel
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From the Vltava to the Elbe is the waterway connection between Prague and Dresden. The Danube would indeed be a bit difficult and then some if wanting to stick to the waters. But for the rail journey between the two, are there any convoluted routes to get the rail journey to go along with a sight of the Danube? I can't see myself doing that.
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Wouldn't count on that either - as regional trains tend to be extremely overcrowded during rush hour, many commuters choose to pay the extra euro for a first class monthly ticket for their commute - hence, I'm under the impression that regional trains are even more crowded than long distance trains during rush hour (outside of daily rush hours first class on those trains seems to be more or less empty). Just try to get onto the northbound RE1 or RE3 from Düsseldorf Central around 4pm - you'll hardly find enough standing room on those regional lines even in first class.
Very few pax in the 10 AM'ish RE, the afternoon S-Bahn the next day was relatively full but myself the only passenger in the 1st section which was pleasant as I had a large bag, garment bag and rucksack with me.
So, while at rush hour the benefits of 1st might be questionable, again a very nice experience also on regional and local trains.
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Hence, if you really need to eat on the train, there often will still be no option other than going to the restaurant car (if it happens not to be out of service which also occurs quite frequently). And if there's no option to eat later (for example, if you have a tight connction to another service where you cannot get food), the only really safe option is to bring your own food onto the train.
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Hence, if you really need to eat on the train, there often will still be no option other than going to the restaurant car (if it happens not to be out of service which also occurs quite frequently). And if there's no option to eat later (for example, if you have a tight connction to another service where you cannot get food), the only really safe option is to bring your own food onto the train.
Cologne City: The fish delicatessen shop at Eigelstein and the Turkish fast food outlets on the Weidengasse. All less than 10 minutes from the main station building and real gourmet food to be had.
Dusseldorf Airport: The "Kikaku" sushi outlet in the Airport terminal. Really good quality Japanese and fusion sushi prepared by a real Japanese sushi master
Dusseldorf City: Several Turkish restaurants 100 - 200 meters from the main station building. Just wade your way through the drug addicts and North African professional thieves at afternoon and evening & night hours
Frankfurt Airport: The "Heisse Theke" at the REWE supermarket above the railway station. Very decent prices and good German meat dishes and veggies for take away
Frankfurt City: The "Erich Zeiss" butcher shop downstairs in the underground shopping arcade. Despite being in the area of the asylum seeker drug dealers, top notch German meat delicacies for take away
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(A better changce to have some quietness is also an advantage, but nobody can guarantee that even in 1st class...)
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We found buying First in Sweden and Norway got us space, quiet and seats. In Secind, it was unbelievably crowded at times, jammed with people, back packs, you name it. Not commuter Japan jammed, but jammed.
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Booked 1st class "Sparpreis" on a work related day trip from Frankfurt to Hannover and back later this year for 93 euro return including all day public transport ticket for Hannover.
Seat reservation now free of charge in 1st and was able to select single row seats on both legs. ^
8 am departure from Frankfurt, so just going to have a quick breakfast at the hotel and head straight to the train, but is the Hannover Hbf DB lounge good at least for a coffee in the late afternoon?
Seat reservation now free of charge in 1st and was able to select single row seats on both legs. ^
8 am departure from Frankfurt, so just going to have a quick breakfast at the hotel and head straight to the train, but is the Hannover Hbf DB lounge good at least for a coffee in the late afternoon?