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miki Jul 10, 2007 3:30 pm


Originally Posted by NorcrossFlyer (Post 8031481)
That looks like a lot of time on trains and busses over 2 days.

While I'm sure the Palm Express bus ride is pretty, its definitely not necessary in order to get from Zermatt to Locarno/Lugano. All you have to do is take the train to Brig and change trains there in order to get to Locarno. Lugano is just another hour on the train from there.

Heres a great resource for figuring out train schedules.

http://www.railpass.com/new/infocent...timetable.html

That is alot of travel. I would cut one day from Interlaken (yes I understand the point to see the villages around the area) and spend that extra day in Lugano. I also suggest taking the normal trains as it will be faster are you still do get a beautiful view.

If you do come to Lugano send me a PM.

highflyer88 Jul 11, 2007 1:17 pm

How about this revised itinerary? The difference is that I cut a day from Interlaken. One question.... should I cut one day from Lausanne and see Zurich? Am I missing out on much by not going to Zurich? (other than to catch a flight?)

Day 1 - Geneva (arriving)
2 - Lausanne
3 - Lausanne - Montreaux/Vevey
4 - Lausanne - Chocolate train
5 - Train from Lausanne to Fribourg to Interlaken
(send luggage straight to Interlaken)
6 - Interlaken
7 - Interlaken Bernese Oberland
8 - Zermatt
9 - Zermatt - Matterhorn
10 - Glacier Express train from Zermatt to St. Moritz
11 - Palm Express bus to Lugano
12 - Lugano
13 - William Tell Express train to Lucerne
14 - Lucerne

NorcrossFlyer Jul 11, 2007 8:33 pm


Originally Posted by highflyer88 (Post 8040305)
How about this revised itinerary? The difference is that I cut a day from Interlaken. One question.... should I cut one day from Lausanne and see Zurich? Am I missing out on much by not going to Zurich? (other than to catch a flight?)

Day 1 - Geneva (arriving)
2 - Lausanne
3 - Lausanne - Montreaux/Vevey
4 - Lausanne - Chocolate train
5 - Train from Lausanne to Fribourg to Interlaken
(send luggage straight to Interlaken)
6 - Interlaken
7 - Interlaken Bernese Oberland
8 - Zermatt
9 - Zermatt - Matterhorn
10 - Glacier Express train from Zermatt to St. Moritz
11 - Palm Express bus to Lugano
12 - Lugano
13 - William Tell Express train to Lucerne
14 - Lucerne

Sorry.........never been to Zurich or Lausanne.

In my opinion, you should focus on these things that make Switzerland, Switzerland. The big cities just don't seem to fit into that picture.

We'll be in Switzerland this October.............3 nights in Lauternbrunnen and 4 nights on Lake Maggiore. To me that is "Switzerland"............but everyone has their own opinion.

You'll love Zermatt. Check out the Swiss Chalet restaurant...........awesome Fondue. You should also check out Zum See, which is a little "town" on the slopes just outside Zermatt.

fleet7 Jul 12, 2007 4:07 pm

In Zermatt you MUST take a helicopter flight around the Matterhorn. The flight takes 20min and costs 210 swiss francs. You won't regret spending a cent. It was the most amazing experience and an absolute highlight of my month in Europe. The flight leaves from Air Zermatt which is at the end of town, but if you head to the information centre at the train station they'll give you directions. Try and book a day before you go because they like to fill the helicopter up.
Enjoy.

miki Jul 15, 2007 10:48 am


Originally Posted by highflyer88 (Post 8040305)
How about this revised itinerary? The difference is that I cut a day from Interlaken. One question.... should I cut one day from Lausanne and see Zurich? Am I missing out on much by not going to Zurich? (other than to catch a flight?)

Day 1 - Geneva (arriving)
2 - Lausanne
3 - Lausanne - Montreaux/Vevey
4 - Lausanne - Chocolate train
5 - Train from Lausanne to Fribourg to Interlaken
(send luggage straight to Interlaken)
6 - Interlaken
7 - Interlaken Bernese Oberland
8 - Zermatt
9 - Zermatt - Matterhorn
10 - Glacier Express train from Zermatt to St. Moritz
11 - Palm Express bus to Lugano
12 - Lugano
13 - William Tell Express train to Lucerne
14 - Lucerne


I like your revised itinerary alot better. As for Zurich, it is a big city but is still a part of Switzerland. i have never been to Lausanne so I don't know how it compares or if it is worth dropping a day for. The old town is fun to take a walk around in and then there is also the big shopping district. If I were you I'd either just stick to Lausanne or stop in Zurich for a few hours while connecting trains (old town is maybe a 15 minute walk from the train station).

Remember you do have alot of traveling that you are doing and it might be nice to relax in one place for a few days.

taipan954 Jul 17, 2007 8:19 pm

Just got back from Lausanne. Flew into Geneva on Tues. nite, train to Lausanne (45 mins) then left Thursday morning. I was staying 5 minutes from the train station at Hotel Angleterre right on the lake. It was my first time in Switzerland and here is my quick impression of Lausanne:

1.) Idyllic and clean (think Hansel and Gretel storybook) with beautiful architecture that is very well maintained
2.) Friendly with a small town feel
3.) Beautiful to walk around the lake on the paved path and just take in the scene
4.) I have never seen so many fit people jogging, not even in Germany :D

I really think you could do this town in a day very easily. I didn't do the Chocolate train so I can't comment. I imagine Montreux is similar to Lausanne?

highflyer88 Jul 18, 2007 9:28 am

I appreciate everyone's input. One more question. If I have an early flight out of Zurich (9:30AM), would it be better to stay in Lucerne and take an early train, or take the train the night before into Zurich?

okko Jul 18, 2007 9:41 am

In Vevey I would certainly recommend the funicular to Mt Pelerin - what a great method of public transportation and excellent views from the top end of the line!
http://www.funimag.com/suisse/Vevey-MtPelerin01.htm

In Lausanne, I thought this exhibition was pretty interesting:
http://www.artbrut.ch/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_art

E_Viking Jul 18, 2007 2:45 pm

Lausanne / Montreux
 
A few suggestions for when you are in the Lausanne/Montreux area:

1. From Lausanne, take the boat over to Evian in France (a 30 minute crossing on Lake Geneva). It's a charming (albeit touristic, but what is not?) town where the famous Evian water is tapped.

2. If you want to see the most postcard-like view I have ever seen: Take the train to Montreux and then switch trains and take the mountain train up to Rochers-de-Naye. The ride takes an hour and when you get to the end station at 2,000 metres, you will have such a stunning view not only of Lake Geneva, but also the Swiss/French alps, including a mountain lake.

3. If you are interested in sports, go to the Olympic Museum in Lausanne (also the headquarters of the IOC). They have an exhibition that it is definitely worth spending an hour or two on.

miki Jul 19, 2007 11:09 am


Originally Posted by highflyer88 (Post 8077395)
I appreciate everyone's input. One more question. If I have an early flight out of Zurich (9:30AM), would it be better to stay in Lucerne and take an early train, or take the train the night before into Zurich?

I would stay in Zurich. It will put your mind at ease if you don't have to worry about missing/the train being late (yes it does happen on occassion in CH). You will also get to sleep in slightly longer too. ZRH isn't a hard airport to navigate but do allow ample time for check in and security.

NorcrossFlyer Jul 19, 2007 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by highflyer88 (Post 8077395)
I appreciate everyone's input. One more question. If I have an early flight out of Zurich (9:30AM), would it be better to stay in Lucerne and take an early train, or take the train the night before into Zurich?

Stay in Lucerne..........its only 30-ish miles from Zurich.

manneca Jul 19, 2007 12:25 pm

I'd stay in Montrose or Vevey. I went in the spring and it was lovely. Second the train up the mountain there. I see you've dropped Berne, but it has the best chocolate in the world. Tschirren. It's a small store near the train station. There are several streets with covered side walks (with arches to the street). The store is on the first or second street from the river (on the river side). I didn't see the brand anywhere else in Switzerland, but it may be.

QMConsultant Jul 24, 2007 5:47 am


Originally Posted by highflyer88 (Post 8077395)
I appreciate everyone's input. One more question. If I have an early flight out of Zurich (9:30AM), would it be better to stay in Lucerne and take an early train, or take the train the night before into Zurich?

You should overnight in Zurich. The train ride between Lucerne and Zurich is approx. 1 hour and you might need a connecting train from Zurich main station to Zurich airport. Plan for sufficient time at the airport - although it is small and easy to navigate, security lines can be long in the morning!

Enjoy your stay in Switzerland!

world_citizen Jul 24, 2007 11:49 am

I certainly wouldn't miss out on the opportunity to see St. Moritz, I thought it was so beautiful. The air is so crisp and lovely! You have to go there.

karelvdh Jul 27, 2007 11:54 am

Some suggestions
 
Hi, your trip is looking nicer with every change :)
I didn't find information on what time of year you plan your trip. In Switzerland that's important of course.
If you consider Day 5 to be a travel day, this will be rather light. Or do you plan to walk around in Fribourg ? Indeed a nice town, but not really a must-see in my personal view. As an alternative, if you manage to get the luggage to Interlaken, get off the train in Thun, take a boat on the Thunersee, make a stop at Oberhofen Castle (forget the castle, visit the gardens) and continue on the boat all the way to Interlaken. In Interlaken I presume you'll go to Grindelwald and take the Jungfrau express train ? Not cheap but worthwhile. You could also (or as an alternative) mount in Grindelwald on the First gondola line. I don't know if you really need day 6 and 7 both in Interlaken if you used day 6 for the Grindelwald trip. You could choose to use 7 for the Aletsch area. Spend a night in the Riederalp or Bettmleralp area, and don't forget to go all the way up to the Eggishorn to see the Aletsch !


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