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Originally Posted by pbiflyer
(Post 37334581)
Just a thought on the Disney thing.
A much shorter (and sell her on the much more authentic french experience) is Jardin d'Acclimatation, right in Paris. And in a nice park to boot. https://www.jardindacclimatation.fr/en Alternatively, while it takes about the same time, much cheaper is Parc Asterix. https://www.parcasterix.fr/en For Belgium, unless you really want to spend late nights in Antwerp or Brussels, I would just pick one and train to the other. Easy train rides. |
If you have quite a few days, you can venture to smaller attractions in nearby places, not just the capital cities. For example, Utrecht and Brugge are nice to visit. 12 days could easily be split with 2 areas, instead of 4 (CDG. BRU, AMS, CPH)
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Originally Posted by ksucats
(Post 37333863)
We will figure out what all we what to do in Paris and stay there the appropriate number of days. Unless I can talk my wife out of it, one of those days will be wasted at Disney. Then we will take the train to Brussels. I am thinking 2 days there with one of them being a day trip to Bruges and/or Ghent. Then take the train to Antwerp for a day and then on to Amsterdam for the remaining days.
Originally Posted by ksucats
(Post 37334819)
My wife grew up near DisneyWorld and is just a huge Disney fan, so I don't think any other park will change her mind. I suppose I will survive.
Originally Posted by RBW
(Post 37335066)
If you have quite a few days, you can venture to smaller attractions in nearby places, not just the capital cities. For example, Utrecht and Brugge are nice to visit. 12 days could easily be split with 2 areas, instead of 4 (CDG. BRU, AMS, CPH)
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I made the mistake (or wisdom) of visiting 10 cities in 15 days on my first trip to Europe. This was not a tour. Since then, I've traveled at a slightly slower pace, usually no more than 2 cities at a time, not including visiting Amsterdam for a few hours between connections.
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Originally Posted by pdxerinsaarland
(Post 37335668)
To get to Amsterdam from Belgium, Antwerp is a stop on the line whether you come from Bruges or Brussels. If you were to visit Bruges, you could also get there via Lille from Paris, which may be an interesting approach if you wanted to check out the sites there on the way. Unless your aim is to see all the capital cities.
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I don’t think most people would call Brussels a filthy hovel.
but less interesting than the other choices. Here’s some filth we found in Brussels. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...96d29e718.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fafab4df3.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c348b7620.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e7a50af5.jpeg |
Originally Posted by pbiflyer
(Post 37336853)
I don’t think most people would call Brussels a filthy hovel.
but less interesting than the other choices. Here’s some filth we found in Brussels. |
Originally Posted by ksucats
(Post 37336866)
Thanks for posting those. Brussels also seems to me to be the best option to stay because of its central location making it easy to visit the other areas. I am going to start researching the day trip tours that can be purchased and comparing to just taking the train and touring around on our own. That will help me decide if we want to stay near train station or closer to where the tour pickup points are.
Personally, I liked Ghent, then Antwerp, more than Brussels and Bruges. Bruges strikes me as a not real place, kind of like Venice. |
Originally Posted by pbiflyer
(Post 37336853)
I don’t think most people would call Brussels a filthy hovel.
but less interesting than the other choices. Here’s some filth we found in Brussels. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...96d29e718.jpeg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...fafab4df3.jpeg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c348b7620.jpeg https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5e7a50af5.jpeg It's a filthy, dangerous city. It's still worth visiting though especially if you've never been before - but one afternoon is plenty. As others have said, there's much much nicer places in Belgium - Bruges being one. |
I would just spend the days in Paris and Amsterdam.
There is enough to see and do in Paris for one whole week. Louvre museum, musee d'orsay, disney, versaillles etc There are also day trips to small french towns if u want. Same for Amsterdam. Nice city and plenty of daytrips too. Brussels...no one ever said they go to Europe just to visit Brussels. basically there is nothing much there. can just totally skip |
Bruxelles is worth a couple days.
We went to Brugges as a day side trip from Bruxelles, felt too touristy to be worth it if you're short on time, but sometimes that's what people like I guess. Anvers is also quite popular but I haven't been personally. Amsterdam reminds me of Barcelone in the sense it's touristy and expensive. |
With 12 days, it comes to down to what your/your wife‘s travel preferences are regarding:
- visiting places road-trip style, moving along every x days between Paris and Amsterdam vs minimizing lodging moves - tolerance for crowds. Sometimes it‘s worth overnighting at some destinations to see a place after day trippers have left/before they get there. - big cities vs smaller/mid-size towns/cities It sounds like you may be wanting to visit Bruges, Ghent, Bruxelles, and Antwerp while minimizing train connections. You could also consider basing out of Ghent or Antwerp, depending on which approach you get there from Paris. From Antwerp, you could even base out of there for NL destinations. As others have mentioned, Bruges is touristy (not sure if it‘s Venice level), but it quiets down in the evening and early morning. Also, Damme nearby may be a nice summer excursion if you head up there. Or wing it - decide after Disney and getting to Paris to see if it‘s a place you want to spend a week in or leave after a few days. |
I am making this trip myself next month, doing 2 nights Paris, 4 nights Antwerp and 7 nights Amsterdam. But I have been to Paris many times. In your case, assuming you haven’t been to Paris before, if you have 10 nights split them between Paris and Amsterdam. If you have 12 nights, you could consider spending 2 of them in Belgium.
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Originally Posted by pdxerinsaarland
(Post 37339880)
With 12 days, it comes to down to what your/your wife‘s travel preferences are regarding:
- visiting places road-trip style, moving along every x days between Paris and Amsterdam vs minimizing lodging moves - tolerance for crowds. Sometimes it‘s worth overnighting at some destinations to see a place after day trippers have left/before they get there. - big cities vs smaller/mid-size towns/cities It sounds like you may be wanting to visit Bruges, Ghent, Bruxelles, and Antwerp while minimizing train connections. You could also consider basing out of Ghent or Antwerp, depending on which approach you get there from Paris. From Antwerp, you could even base out of there for NL destinations. As others have mentioned, Bruges is touristy (not sure if it‘s Venice level), but it quiets down in the evening and early morning. Also, Damme nearby may be a nice summer excursion if you head up there. Or wing it - decide after Disney and getting to Paris to see if it‘s a place you want to spend a week in or leave after a few days. Let's not forget Leuven. It's a historic old university town in the Dutch speaking part of Belgium, probably about an hour by train from Brussels. In the Netherlands, the Hague and Rotterdam are also worth visiting. |
Originally Posted by Hornetcoach
(Post 37339998)
I am making this trip myself next month, doing 2 nights Paris, 4 nights Antwerp and 7 nights Amsterdam. But I have been to Paris many times. In your case, assuming you haven’t been to Paris before, if you have 10 nights split them between Paris and Amsterdam. If you have 12 nights, you could consider spending 2 of them in Belgium.
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