Why are European shower doors only halved?
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I mentioned upthread and someone else further explained, perhaps people dont' practice continuous, top-spray showers. Locally we see even in brand new construction where designers have freedom to route plumbing, the taps come from the side of the tub and/or the wand mount is attached to the side of the tub....
re: kitchen workspace, these are extensible via portable islands/benches/carts, which was our solution. small sinks though are fixed. absurd that we had to handwash larger oven racks and baking trays and etc by hand in the bathtub !!
re: kitchen workspace, these are extensible via portable islands/benches/carts, which was our solution. small sinks though are fixed. absurd that we had to handwash larger oven racks and baking trays and etc by hand in the bathtub !!
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Friend of mine built a modern house in Germany. Has a freestanding glass shower with rain/overhead head. However the shower is only enclosed on 3 sides, even though there is adequate space for a hinged door. The floor within the shower slopes for drainage, but he has to keep a commercial-kitchen floor squeegee in the room to sweep the inevitable puddles that spills out the shower after every use
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Last weekend I stayed (again) in a newly refurbished hotel in Amsterdam.
The taps in the bathroom sink were still separate hot and cold taps. Same with the hotel I stayed in in June. Both were aimed at the North American market.
Both hotels had undergone multi million refurbishments in the last couple of years but neither felt the need to install mixer taps over the sinks.
The taps in the bathroom sink were still separate hot and cold taps. Same with the hotel I stayed in in June. Both were aimed at the North American market.
Both hotels had undergone multi million refurbishments in the last couple of years but neither felt the need to install mixer taps over the sinks.
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Friend of mine built a modern house in Germany. Has a freestanding glass shower with rain/overhead head. However the shower is only enclosed on 3 sides, even though there is adequate space for a hinged door. The floor within the shower slopes for drainage, but he has to keep a commercial-kitchen floor squeegee in the room to sweep the inevitable puddles that spills out the shower after every use
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In Scandinavian countries... ...so maybe in large part that is why they feel more of a need to open bathroom windows for giving "air" to the place and to use those squeegees to wipe down the floors and walls of showers/tubs and more manually direct the left-over water into the drains?
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This. Using a squeegee lowers the air humidity, as the water guided to the drains will not evaporate inside the house. Most bathrooms have tile or PVC floors, the floor is heated and bathtubs are regarded as "weird contraptions in southerly latitudes" Smaller bathrooms usually would have a shower cabin, while larger ones are often totally open, wet room style.
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Having had more than my fair share of stays in the country where the term bungalow first applied, I will take the liberty of claiming that a bungalow need not be limited to a single floor or 1.5 floors. There are double floor bungalows too and have been for at least nearly as long as the British had their Indian capital in Bengal. But single-floor bungalows are cheaper than those with more than one floor.
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Australian Building Standards
Australian Building Standards require all bathrooms and laundries to have a drain in the room in case a tap is left running in a basin or bathtub or if the shower recess floods.
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Typical
The half shower door is really common in European bathrooms. They are an irrational stupid design but I have learned to use them. Since the doors are hinged you need to tilt the door slightly inward toward the shower. Then water hitting the door will run down into the tub. If it's not tilted inward the water will run to the location of least resistance which is probably the floor. You also have to be careful where you aim that handheld shower head.
Other unpredictable things....
Other unpredictable things....
- certain countries give you washcloths and others don't. It seems to be dictated by country. I'm a washcloth person so now I bring dollar store washcloths which I can just leave behind.
- there probably will not be any outlets in the bathroom other than one marked "shaver only". This plug may not allow you to plug other things into it. This is more of a problem for women who use a hair dryer or styling tools with a mirror. You can't plug these devices into the bathroom and there may not be any other mirror in the room. I have used the turned off TV as a mirror. Far from ideal but it worked.
- bidets are occasionally present in European bathrooms. You can google how to use it but it's a great addition.
- It's pretty typical that there is a handheld shower head that is mounted on a long bar. These are height adjustable. You can loosen it, slide it up or down, and tighten. Great idea!
- Temperature controls on the shower are also common. It usually stops or clicks at 38 degrees celsius then you may have to depress a button while turning to get it hotter. This is a nice safety feature when the water temps are consistent. There will likely be two knobs; one for temperature and one to turn on the water.
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The half shower door is really common in European bathrooms. They are an irrational stupid design but I have learned to use them. Since the doors are hinged you need to tilt the door slightly inward toward the shower. Then water hitting the door will run down into the tub. If it's not tilted inward the water will run to the location of least resistance which is probably the floor. You also have to be careful where you aim that handheld shower head.
Other unpredictable things....
Other unpredictable things....
- certain countries give you washcloths and others don't. It seems to be dictated by country. I'm a washcloth person so now I bring dollar store washcloths which I can just leave behind.
- there probably will not be any outlets in the bathroom other than one marked "shaver only". This plug may not allow you to plug other things into it. This is more of a problem for women who use a hair dryer or styling tools with a mirror. You can't plug these devices into the bathroom and there may not be any other mirror in the room. I have used the turned off TV as a mirror. Far from ideal but it worked.
- bidets are occasionally present in European bathrooms. You can google how to use it but it's a great addition.
- It's pretty typical that there is a handheld shower head that is mounted on a long bar. These are height adjustable. You can loosen it, slide it up or down, and tighten. Great idea!
- Temperature controls on the shower are also common. It usually stops or clicks at 38 degrees celsius then you may have to depress a button while turning to get it hotter. This is a nice safety feature when the water temps are consistent. There will likely be two knobs; one for temperature and one to turn on the water.
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Wash cloths in European hotel bathrooms have been seeing cutbacks. The excuse is that people don't use them like they used to do so and that this is a way of saving the world/environment. Welcome to hotels green-washing their cost-cutting ways to pad their bottom line.
Also Northern European bathrooms seem to have more of a visible mold-development issue than US bathrooms at properties of comparable age with rather comparable climates. Ventilation approaches are part of the issue, but there are other issues where it's a material-sourcing/use issue. For example, I would say that Northern European home-building quality has taken a fall as cross-border commerce within the EU has increased. For example, Northern European home builders sourcing material from and/or for application in southern/warmer/dryer parts of Europe and instead using them in parts of Northern Europe that are not as warm/dry.
Also Northern European bathrooms seem to have more of a visible mold-development issue than US bathrooms at properties of comparable age with rather comparable climates. Ventilation approaches are part of the issue, but there are other issues where it's a material-sourcing/use issue. For example, I would say that Northern European home-building quality has taken a fall as cross-border commerce within the EU has increased. For example, Northern European home builders sourcing material from and/or for application in southern/warmer/dryer parts of Europe and instead using them in parts of Northern Europe that are not as warm/dry.
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RE: the half-shower doors. I don't mind if they are properly executed and maintained. However, I was in a hotel in Milan this past September that had the half-door. The vertical pole that the shower head was attached to was centered along the long wall of the tub, and the support for the hand-held shower head was so weak the shower head just tipped down and over until it was pointing at the wall. Also, they had put the half-door at the end of the tub opposite the tub spout, where one's head would be if lying down and taking a bath. Unfortunately, that end of tub was steeply angled to accommodate lying down, so you couldn't stand next to the half door. This, combined with the floppy shower head, made for a very wet floor!
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Hello all, welcome to nightowlgirl and a hello to an old friend (this thread).
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- there probably will not be any outlets in the bathroom other than one marked "shaver only". This plug may not allow you to plug other things into it. This is more of a problem for women who use a hair dryer or styling tools with a mirror. You can't plug these devices into the bathroom and there may not be any other mirror in the room. I have used the turned off TV as a mirror. Far from ideal but it worked.
UK law bans outlets in a room with a shower unless it can be sited more than 10ft from the shower. Our bathrooms aren't that big.
And, of course, with our half-doors acting as inadequate shower screens causing water to get everywhere, you wouldn't want live electricity in such a wet environment anyway