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TURKEY & USA REINSTATE VISA SERVICE! 28 Dec 2017
Link to Bloomberg article.
The visa exclusion no longer applies.
Announcement from Turkish Airlines:
https://p.turkishairlines.com/en-us/news-press-release/index.html
Parallel discussion in Turkish Airlines forum:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turkish-airlines-miles-smiles/1871028-us-turkey-suspend-visa-issuance.html
Another parallel discussion in the Checkpoints and Borders Policy Debate forum:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/checkpoints-borders-policy-debate/1870979-u-s-halts-some-visa-services-turkey.html
Turkey suspends all visa (and evisa) services at Turkish missions in the US
#16
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If you're under 1 ticket (PNR) and the connection is within 24 hours you're absolutely fine, as stated officially by Turkish Airlines.
I would also recommend booking TAV hotel (airside) for extra comfort, I can guarantee those rooms are in high demand now, please reserve the airside rooms if you're impacted by visa suspension
http://www.ataturkairport.com/en-EN/...portHotel.aspx
I would also recommend booking TAV hotel (airside) for extra comfort, I can guarantee those rooms are in high demand now, please reserve the airside rooms if you're impacted by visa suspension
http://www.ataturkairport.com/en-EN/...portHotel.aspx
#17
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My mother and I have a trip planned to visit Turkey end of November. We are both dual citizens of the US and a country which is visa exempt in Turkey for tourists. Any problem entering and leaving Turkey with that country's passport?
Last edited by FlyingFrZ; Oct 13, 2017 at 8:46 pm
#19
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Is there any way Turkey might know you are US citizens? If not, then I can't imagine how there would be any problem. Even if Turkey did know (born in the US, entered on US passport before), I would guess that the likelihood of any problems would be close to zero. If your other citizenship country qualifies for visa-free entry, then it must be a country with which Turkey is friendly.
#20
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Is there any way Turkey might know you are US citizens? If not, then I can't imagine how there would be any problem. Even if Turkey did know (born in the US, entered on US passport before), I would guess that the likelihood of any problems would be close to zero. If your other citizenship country qualifies for visa-free entry, then it must be a country with which Turkey is friendly.
My understanding is that Turkey has not explicitly barred US citizens from entering the country, but rather just won't issue a new visa for US passports. I agree with you that technically there should not be a problem entering and leaving Turkey with our other passport, its just we have never done anything like this before so I was just a bit concerned.
#21
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Thanks for the reply. I am a natural born US citizen, but my mother is naturalized. She has lived here for 40 years now though.
My understanding is that Turkey has not explicitly barred US citizens from entering the country, but rather just won't issue a new visa for US passports. I agree with you that technically there should not be a problem entering and leaving Turkey with our other passport, its just we have never done anything like this before so I was just a bit concerned.
My understanding is that Turkey has not explicitly barred US citizens from entering the country, but rather just won't issue a new visa for US passports. I agree with you that technically there should not be a problem entering and leaving Turkey with our other passport, its just we have never done anything like this before so I was just a bit concerned.
Like what others have said, it's not the issue of being US citizen, it's the issue of getting a new visa if you're US citizen.
Last edited by vincewy; Oct 16, 2017 at 11:01 am
#22
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I also have 2 passports (US and another), the non-US passport gives me free online visa and I have been using my second passport in and out of Turkey since.
Like what others have said, it's not the issue of being US citizen, it's the issue of getting a new visa if you're US citizen.
Like what others have said, it's not the issue of being US citizen, it's the issue of getting a new visa if you're US citizen.
#23
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I planned to visit Turkey between Christmas and New Years. I have an award ticket with Delta/KLM then a cash ticket to fly onto Greece on Turkish. I didn't bother to get my Visa of course so now it's looking like I won't be going. I'm going to give this a few weeks and if nothing changes figure out a different place to visit. Great timing
#24
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I planned to visit Turkey between Christmas and New Years. I have an award ticket with Delta/KLM then a cash ticket to fly onto Greece on Turkish. I didn't bother to get my Visa of course so now it's looking like I won't be going. I'm going to give this a few weeks and if nothing changes figure out a different place to visit. Great timing
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/turk...-issuance.html
https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopi...-Istanbul.html (see post 107 in particular)
https://thepointsguy.com/2017/10/ent...ring-visa-ban/
Last edited by 36902BRF; Oct 23, 2017 at 8:06 pm Reason: Edited to add third link
#25
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I guess worst case is I spend 9 hours in the lounge .
#26
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As you stated, it doesn't appear very official at this point. It looks like for my trip, ORD-IST-BKK (9 days)-IST-ORD, it's worth at least trying to get a visa on arrival on the way back from BKK. Assuming nothing is resolved by the end of November.
I guess worst case is I spend 9 hours in the lounge .
I guess worst case is I spend 9 hours in the lounge .
Edit: Rereading the TPG article it does appear that transit passengers are excluded from visa on arrival.
Last edited by 36902BRF; Oct 24, 2017 at 2:22 pm
#27
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Interestingly, the KL website allowed me to buy a $20 option on the IAH-IST discounted r/t J fare noted in the Premium Fares Mileage Run thread, so I may have a leg up on this. But frankly, I don't think anyone knows what's going on on the ground, so naturally the airlines are running scared, except TK.
ADDENDUM: After being routed to web support and enduring 15 minute hold, ticket was issued with no questions or complications. I hope the visa problem becomes a moot point by the time I fly at the end of March. If not, we shall see.
Last edited by mczlaw; Oct 25, 2017 at 1:32 pm Reason: Update info
#28
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By contrast, at least according to KL/AF/DL, a sub-24hr. connection with a separate PNR is not ticketable. I've been on the phone with them for about 45 mins now and they aren't budging even though I've told them I've prepared to show proof of an onward flight at checkin (or immediately if they insist).
You may not be able to check-in or board the aircraft, but that is a different story.
#29
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Since when does entry requirements to a country have anything to do with ticketing? In fact, many countries require you to have a valid ticket to be able to apply for a visa in the first place...
You may not be able to check-in or board the aircraft, but that is a different story.
You may not be able to check-in or board the aircraft, but that is a different story.
#30
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Hello
i am currently in the UK trying to fly to Istanbul on previously obtained e-visa as an American passport holder. However, the Turkish Airlines folks told me I can only stay airside, and Americans entering Turkey from third-countries, despite holding e-visas that are valid will still need a actual visa stamp in the passport from a Turkish Embassy/Consulate. Is this true?
If I can get on the flight, should I try for visa on landing? Would love any advice! Thanks much!
i am currently in the UK trying to fly to Istanbul on previously obtained e-visa as an American passport holder. However, the Turkish Airlines folks told me I can only stay airside, and Americans entering Turkey from third-countries, despite holding e-visas that are valid will still need a actual visa stamp in the passport from a Turkish Embassy/Consulate. Is this true?
If I can get on the flight, should I try for visa on landing? Would love any advice! Thanks much!