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Muhammad Adeel Jul 23, 2015 6:26 am
Schengen Visa Questions
 
Hello, i've been issued a tourist visa for Etats Schengen for 1 year, Multiple entires and Length of stay: 90 Days..
the question is, Am i allowed a maximum of 90 days stay in Schengen Area for the whole year, or 90 days continuously??
Thanks.

fassy Jul 23, 2015 7:02 am
Originally Posted by Muhammad Adeel (Post 25160074)
Hello, i've been issued a tourist visa for Etats Schengen for 1 year, Multiple entires and Length of stay: 90 Days..
the question is, Am i allowed a maximum of 90 days stay in Schengen Area for the whole year, or 90 days continuously??
Thanks.
I'm pretty much sure it allows multiple entries with 90 consecutive days each, but not more than 90 days in 180. So the practical limit is 180 days in a year.

Anyway, if you would be more than 180 days in Europe over a year there might be tax implications...

Best double check at a consulate, just use any Schengen country which has a consulate in your country. They should be able to give you exact information on the phone.

GUWonder Jul 23, 2015 9:09 am
It's multiple entries for a combined total of 90 days over the course of the year according to what the Belgians and Dutch have been telling my Eastern European acquaintances with the one-year multiple entry tourist visas that mention 90 days. That would be a practical limit of 90 total days in a one year period. That said, I'm finding Belgian and Dutch passport control to be all over the place in their claims about what is and is not lawful. It really depends on whether or not the issued visa is a "circulation" visa or not; if it is "circulation" then the practical maximum limit is closer to double 90 days in a one-year period as long as not staying more than 90 days in any given 180 day period.

fassy Jul 23, 2015 9:31 am
Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 25160847)
It's multiple entries for a combined total of 90 days over the course of the year according to what the Belgians and Dutch have been telling my Eastern European acquaintances with the one-year multiple entry tourist visas that mention 90 days.
I just read it up on the website of the German consulate:
The new rule now allows stays of " up to 90 days per period of 180 days , where the 180-day period that precedes each day of stay , is taken into account " .

How is this new regulation to be understood?

Suppose that a foreigner has an annual visa for the Schengen countries, valid from 01.01.2013 till 31.12.2013.

On 18.10.2013 he is in the Schengen States.

In order to assess the legality of his stay on this day the period from 22.4.2013 to 18.10.2013 will be considered. This is precisely the period of 180 calendar days, which ends on 18 October.

Now every day are counted in this period, at which the alien has resided in the Schengen states, on or left the country.

If the number of such days is not greater than 90, then his residence is on this day, October 18, legally.


If the foreigner does not emigrating, then the legality of his stay is again rated on the following day.

But the time is another, namely from 23/04/2013 to 19/10/2013 - again 180 days, but start and end dates of this period are shifted by one day.


This review is carried out for each day on which the foreigner is staying in the Schengen States.
They actually provide an excel sheet to help: http://www.germania.diplo.de/content...ltsrechner.xls

It is German, in Colum B you enter you entry date, in Column C when you left Schengen, enter the date YYYY-MM-DD, even though it will be formatted then in DD-MM-YYYY. Column I will say from which date you are an "illegal"

GUWonder Jul 23, 2015 9:44 am
Originally Posted by fassy (Post 25160962)
I just read it up on the website of the German consulate:


They actually provide an excel sheet to help: http://www.germania.diplo.de/content...ltsrechner.xls

It is German, in Colum B you enter you entry date, in Column C when you left Schengen, enter the date YYYY-MM-DD, even though it will be formatted then in DD-MM-YYYY. Column I will say from which date you are an "illegal"
If the French multi-entry one-year visa is not a "Circulation" visa, the maximum stay is 90 days in a one-year period. If it is a "circulation" visa, then it's as you said above.

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/com...cker-visa-mean

Not all French visas of this sort have been "circulation" visas, which results in problems of trying to stay more than 90 days in a one-year period even if not staying more than 90 days in any 180 day period.

Muhammad Adeel Jul 23, 2015 2:07 pm
Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 25161027)
If the French multi-entry one-year visa is not a "Circulation" visa, the maximum stay is 90 days in a one-year period. If it is a "circulation" visa, then it's as you said above.

http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/com...cker-visa-mean

Not all French visas of this sort have been "circulation" visas, which results in problems of trying to stay more than 90 days in a one-year period even if not staying more than 90 days in any 180 day period.
Thanks, I've been issued a Swiss visa, and remarks say "Tourisme", so 90 days per 365 days apply or 90 per 180?

Muhammad Adeel Jul 23, 2015 2:23 pm
I'll confirm with Swiss Embassy tomorrow in Dubai, will update! :) Thanks!

fassy Jul 23, 2015 2:56 pm
Originally Posted by Muhammad Adeel (Post 25162569)
I'll confirm with Swiss Embassy tomorrow in Dubai, will update! :) Thanks!
I think it'll be 90 in 180 days but getting a explanation by the issuing embassy is the best you can do :)

GUWonder Jul 23, 2015 6:35 pm
Originally Posted by fassy (Post 25162756)
I think it'll be 90 in 180 days but getting a explanation by the issuing embassy is the best you can do :)
I think you'll indeed be correct about this. For I've not yet seen a short-duration-stay, multiple-entry, one-year Swiss Schengen visa that functioned differently than the French "circulation" visa. Of course I'm subject to being wrong about this.

ft556 Aug 20, 2015 9:39 am
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dutchgirlDH Aug 25, 2015 1:31 pm
here's all you need to know
http://ec.europa.eu/dgs/home-affairs...y/index_en.htm


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