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localady Jan 25, 2011 10:08 am


Originally Posted by GoldieGhe (Post 15727960)
Everything locallady mentioned can be easily done in 2 days, 3 days if you are very slow.

I'm sure that if you only have 2 or 3 days to do all of them you could. I spent a full two days exploring the castle district alone one year and when I went back the next year, I saw things that I had missed the prior year. However, I don't think that it's fair to say that either one of them (Vienna or Budapest) is better than the other one. They are totally different and offer different things to different travelers. A lot of it is dependent on what you are looking for and what you personally enjoy in your travel.... I personally like the old and drab and full of history and really don't don't get excited over the grandeur, famous music halls or exquisite restaurants... Vienna was OK, but Budapest is my preferred choice...

hdogan Jan 25, 2011 2:42 pm


Originally Posted by GoldieGhe (Post 15727960)
Vienna is a world class European capital with exquisite restaurants, famous music halls, grand architecture, unparalleled majesty, museums, parks, sopping, not to mention the best pastry I ever have; and these are just a few of my favorite things. Budapest, on the other hand, a cement-gray town full of old communist relics, graffiti, perfectly priced for people who want to experience the grandeur of the Austro-Hungarian empire but can afford only the Hungarian part.

I... wanted to comment on this, but am at loss with words...

GoldieGhe, you are from Vienna, right? ;)

stut Jan 25, 2011 2:45 pm

"The feeling is gone: only you and I. It means nothing to me. It means nothing to me: oh, Vienna."

(FWIW, I like both, but find Vienna a little formal and pretentious for my own taste. However, I'm biased towards Budapest as the result of a wonderful just-post-communist trip there in my mid-teens, and some great business trips where the clients could not have been more welcoming...)

GoldieGhe Jan 26, 2011 7:55 am

I sincerely regret if any of my comments offended anyone’s gentle sensibility. And for curios minds; no, I am not from Vienna, presently live in US, although, I was born in what once upon a time was called Deutsche Demokratische Republik (East Germany). It just happen to like Vienna a whole lot more than Budapest. And for people who enjoy old and drab I suggest Bucharest. I am no architect, but I believe that technically the city is build out of old drab. In my earlier postings I was just stating my opinion, and as a famous poet once said “Opinions are like anal orifices, everyone has one.” If my opinion was articulated in such inartful way that it caused distress to any of you, once again, I humbly apologize.

hdogan Jan 26, 2011 8:32 am


Originally Posted by GoldieGhe (Post 15738216)
And for people who enjoy old and drab I suggest Bucharest. I am no architect, but I believe that technically the city is build out of old drab.

See, just like with VIE vs. BUD, it's just a matter of perspective! While I generally agree that Bucharest is a pretty drab place, just taking a drive from the airport to the center, through the area with 19-th century villas which are getting more and more rebuilt every time I visit, gives you a glimpse of its (former?) grandeur.

You have to consider the general negligence for upkeep of the infrastructure that it suffered over decades, and while in general it is - as you said - grey and old, I could still spend a couple of days there and leave seeing some real pretty sights.

BTW, your preference for Vienna might be partially biased by understanding the language the locals speak. You might not be aware of it at first, but it does make a difference, and it does make a new city seem more familiar and welcoming. Unfortunately, Budapest provides nobody with that advantage :D

Greetings from Intercontinental Bucharest, BTW - I'm there till tomorrow :)

GoldieGhe Jan 26, 2011 10:29 am


Originally Posted by hdogan (Post 15738422)
Greetings from Intercontinental Bucharest, BTW - I'm there till tomorrow :)

Thanks for the greeting. I just left Bucharest 2 days ago. Intercontinental is ok, however, Athenee Palace is my favorite. If you like Lebanese food you should try Tulin Restaurant, 10 minutes walk from your hotel, on Str. Pictor Stahi,(by the Cismigiu Park, near the music conservatory), the best meal I had in Bucharest. The old town (Lipscani str. area) could be charming and with a little foreign investment can became a nice tourist trap, oops, I meant attraction. Carul cu Bere is also great.

hdogan Jan 26, 2011 12:54 pm


Originally Posted by GoldieGhe (Post 15739276)
Carul cu Bere is also great.

Heheh, just been there yesterday. Thanks for the Lebanese tip, I'll have to try that out.

LKHK Feb 2, 2011 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by stut (Post 15733549)
find Vienna a little formal and pretentious for my own taste.

+1


Be careful with taxis, they are notorious for ripping-off tourist. Also the restaurants have a nasty habit of overcharging tourists. I guess the communist habits are hard to break.
Well, one could say something similar and as sweeping about Austrian police as well if one is unfortunate enough to deal with them. I guess nazi manners are hard to break even after 70 years. :rolleyes::td:

WilcoRoger Feb 11, 2011 7:07 am

I put together some info in this thread a while ago

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/europ...ary-guide.html

WilcoRoger Feb 11, 2011 7:08 am


Originally Posted by GoldieGhe (Post 15713000)
If you must, spend the most 2-3 days in Budapest, but Vienna is lot more fun and interesting. In February the weather is brutally cold.

:D:D

Depends on where you are coming from. My teenager just left for Budapest and saying it so warm there (10°C) vs it's so cold here (-15°C)

31dany Mar 1, 2011 7:31 am


Originally Posted by WilcoRoger (Post 15844493)
:D:D

Depends on where you are coming from. My teenager just left for Budapest and saying it so warm there (10°C) vs it's so cold here (-15°C)

First of all, IMHO all 3 cities are nice - each has it's own charm (Bucharest, Budapest and Vienna). If you would just get acquainted with the history from this part of the world, you would realize that, Vienna was a capital many years before Budapest or Bucharest, so the city is way richer in terms of architecture, culture and history. But still, Bucharest and Budapest, even if they were under the iron curtain more then half a century, you would be amazed about how great parts both cities have. Vienna is a bit dull in terms of things to do at night compared with the other 2, but is quite a cultural capital of Europe, however you put it. Nice museums and operas you find in all of them, but Vienna tops them. So, for me, all of them would be nice as a city break.
By the way, all of them have kinda the same climate. Bucharest is a bit warmer I suppose...
Be safe on your travels.

MrValentino Mar 3, 2011 2:04 pm

I think there's no point in comparing Vienna and Budapest, even though I am going to compare them :D . They have different history, thus they offer different things. Budapest was destroyed many times(1541, 1686, 1849,1944-'45), so BUD can consider itself lucky to have a few old, historical buildings remaining. Vienna was more lucky in history, noone ever destroyed it, so Vienna still has the medieval face too.

Vienna is way richer than Budapest, so if you are looking for perfectly renovated buildings, architectural monuments, Vienna may be a better choice. Vienna also has a great cultural life(opera, theatre, etc), and in the winter it's amazing! I also liked the Stefan Kirche and visiting small, hidden restaurants for real austrian food.

In Budapest, you can still see 1956 bullets in the walls, it may seem as a dirty jungle, but it also has a cultural life, but that's different, maybe younger people prefers(not just because it's way cheaper). The values of Budapest doesn't advertise themselves, you have go explore them for yourself.

I think that they are two different worlds, Vienna is a bit pretentious, snobby, for people who prefers cleaned streets, luxury, or at least richer cities. Budapest is for those, who want to experience something else. The hidden inns(I recommend Szimpla Café near the Synagoge), the termal baths, the Castle, old houses offer you a glance at history

Sorry if I was a bit biased, Budapest is my beloved home city... :) This is also an offer, you can ask me questions if you are interested(I've been to Vienna 3-4 times too, so I may be able to answer these questions too). :)


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